圣域2的一点小常识，希望新人少走弯路^^

gullong

实际效果呢？
"......25%的几率拆绕暗战(即有75%的几率拆绕到自己)"
真有这么高的几率吗？我是没法测了，上不了战网啊！

kdashworld

这测试要两个人吧。。。。。。。。。。。一个用狗狗裸体一级JT即可，另一位就比较麻烦了，暗战只能在反弹缠绕和反弹CA之间选1，所以剩下的要靠装备堆~~~~~~~~~~


PS:这个貌似也不用测，从逻辑上是讲的通的~~~~~~~~除非发现有反弹了伤害，却没有反弹特效的情况。。。。。目前游戏里未发现过

[ 本帖最后由 kdashworld 于 2008-12-31 22:37 编辑 ]

gullong

"除非发现有反弹了伤害，却没有反弹特效的情况。。。。。目前游戏里未发现过"
hoho,我见过，有个用火焰弓箭的家伙射中我了，他承受了反远的伤害，却没有被灼烧。

kdashworld

那不能说明什么，因为不是每次特效都100%出现的。
就像反弹了兽人法师的闪电伤害，但不是每次反弹，兽人法师都会被stun的~~~~~~~

还有ogre warrior，最明显了，它砍你数下，反弹不止1次，但只有少数情况，ogre会被自己的伤害stun
由于ogre的攻速挺高，可以很明显的测出来，另外还有不确定因素，这些特效是否是100%触发。。。。所以最好是PVP测一下

这也是为什么偶举了狗狗JT的例子，因为JT是100%缠绕的

[ 本帖最后由 kdashworld 于 2008-12-31 23:01 编辑 ]

gullong

不是100％出效果，我是知道的^^

对了，你有没有注意到像命中几率这类的百分比，个人感觉70％以上在游戏操作中就已经是100％了，照理说敌人反这类属性的百分比应该很强才对啊。
例如暴击，反伤也是这样，我铌难度200级也太简单了吧？

kdashworld

感觉这些属性多用于PVP下。。。。。。。。。


例如无视反弹率，怪身上根本没有这类属性。。。。。。。。。。。。。貌似怪也不会反弹（偶知道有种乌龟会开法术，貌似有反弹效果 ）

Pharaoh

所以说，只要三反够高就行了，不需要再反晕、反缠绕……
就算对方有100%晕眩几率又怎么样，他打不到你还是没办法让你晕啊~~~

gullong

你说的有道理，但别忘了攻击过程中的属性几率是每次都计算的，这个几率不是定死不变的。
就算敌人命中率为1％，也是会击中玩家角色的。
而且，眩晕状态是很严重的负面持续效果，至少有1秒吧，若是PVP就惨了。

射钉枪

灌水灌水...新年第一贴挖哈哈哈哈哈

Pharaoh

能够法术和晕眩都反弹固然是好，但现在不是做不到嘛，同级进阶只能选择一个……

amdparadise

2选1确实很难抉择，不过这也是2代的一大特色嘛

gullong

不用废神了，经验告诉我，敌人杂兵的眩晕效果相对于魔法效果，不常有，但不少boss却有。
而通常是单挑比群殴容易些，所以，暗影的二选一，我不选反眩晕stun。

[ 本帖最后由 gullong 于 2009-1-1 04:01 编辑 ]

gullong

local newBalanceValues = {
  AdjustCriticalDamageFactor = 1200,
  AdjustDamageFactor = 1000,
  AdjustPvPFactor = 200,
  AdjustSpellFactor = 1000,
  BasepointsMultiplier = 500,
  ChanceForAdditionalSlots = 450,
  ChanceForSlotToImprove = 200,
  ChanceIncForSlotImprovePerRareLevel = 50,
  ChanceToBecomeSlotItemForBlankItem = 0,
  ChanceToBecomeSlotItemForMagicItem = 0,
  ChanceToBecomeSlotItemForNormalItem = 250,
  ChanceToBecomeSlotItemForUniqueItem = 0,
  DiceRange = 1000,
  DurationBoost = 2000,
  DurationDot = 500,
  DurationLongDebuff = 3000,
  DurationShortDebuff = 1000,
  DurationStun = 300,
  DurationPulse = 150,
  DurationStunImmunity = 450,
  EffectCombatArtChance = 4,
  EffectWeaponChance = 2,
  EffectWillpower = 25,
  KillCountBase = 15,
  KillCountInc = 2,
  LifeAttribut = 25,
  LifeBase = 130,
  LifeStep = 19,
  MaxDistLevelXP = 15,
  MinDistLevelXP = 3,
  RareBonusDanger = 1000,
  RareMalusThreshold = 150,
  RareStart = 500,
  RuneAmountTotal = 12500,
  SkillPivotPoint = 100,
  SlotGoldPercentageImprovement = 15,
  SlotSilverPercentageImprovement = 7,
  SpellBaseDamage = 25,
  TEnergyDamageRate = 600,
  TEnergyMutateChance = 500,
  ThresholdGreyXP = 150,
  TopLevelCalc = 200,
  balanceLifeRegenerationDelayCombatFac = 50,
  balanceLifeRegenerationDelayDangerFac = 1,
  balanceLifeRegenerationTime = 4500,
  balanceLevelToSkillFactor = 350,
  RegenerationFactorSkin = 800,
  RegenerationFactorArmorBase = 360,
  SpeedMin = 500,
  SpeedMax = 1500,
  SkillGroupPoints = 5,
  damBasepoints = 20,
  resBasepoints = 15,
  RangeAggro = 400,
  RangeXP = 900,
  RangeArea = 200,
  RangeNear = 45,
  AdjustConstitutionFactor = 5,
  InstantHealPortion = 500,
  ExpTeamBonus = 1333,
  ExpUpperCapPM = 125,
  ExpLowerCapPM = 850,
  ExpMinRatio = 50,
  balanceShieldRegDelayCombatFactor = 500,
  balanceShieldRegDelayDangerFactor = 2,
  balanceShieldRegTime = 2000,
  balanceShieldAbsorptionSkill = 50,
  Mounted_ondeath_healthPM = 50,
  NpcFightDamageDownScaling = 500,
  RangeAggroGrey = 100,
  KillDropMulti = 1200,
  IsUsableByHero = 700,
  TraderMaxCount = 10,
  TraderOffer_MaxLifetime = 900,
  ExpMountFactor = 3000,
  RangeClearFOW = 600,
  LifeRegenerationDelayTime = 500,
  dropTimeItemReserved = 30,
  dropTimeItemDestroy = 60,
  dropTimeItemUnloadedDestroy = 120,
  respawnTimeStandard = 1800,
  respawnTimeMPFactor = 3,
  UpgradeStep = 1870,
  UpgradeStart = 3050,
  SwapRune_One = 125000,
  SwapRune_Two = 25000,
  SwapRune_Three = 5000,
  SwapRune_Four = 500,
  SwapRune_Foreign = 1500,
  ForgeSlot_BronceFactor = 1000,
  ForgeSlot_SilverFactor = 1070,
  ForgeSlot_GoldFactor = 1150,
  PriceAdjustment = 5,
  PriceLeveldiscount = 1,
  PriceShredder = 15,
  PriceSlotfactor = 250,
  UBmean = 500,
  UBpivot = 10800,
  UBquot_attr = 3000,
  DropQuestStart = 3,
  DropQuestQuot = 99,
  CAregenItemfactor = 500,
  RegenerationFactorArmorScaling = 1250,
  Mount_Regenburden_Warhorse = 500,
  Mount_Regenburden_Ridehorse = 300,
  RangeDistance = 525,
  RangeMidrange = 300,
  RangePickupLoot = 200,
  SpellResistFactor = 700,
  SkillAttackSpeedQuot = 5,
  SkillMoveSpeedQuot = 15,
  DurationPotionSmall = 0,
  DurationPotionMiddle = 0,
  DurationPotionBig = 0,
  ZRareExpectation15 = 2,
  ZRareExpectation14 = 6,
  ZRareExpectation13 = 14,
  ZRareExpectation12 = 16,
  ZRareExpectation11 = 24,
  ZRareExpectation10 = 34,
  ZRareExpectation09 = 46,
  ZRareExpectation08 = 58,
  ZRareExpectation07 = 72,
  ZRareExpectation06 = 88,
  ZRareExpectation05 = 106,
  ZRareExpectation04 = 124,
  ZRareExpectation03 = 144,
  ZRareExpectation02 = 166,
  ZRareExpectation01 = 456,
  ZRareExpectation00 = 1000,
  ZRareBasepoints15 = 1350,
  ZRareBasepoints14 = 1320,
  ZRareBasepoints13 = 1290,
  ZRareBasepoints12 = 1260,
  ZRareBasepoints11 = 1230,
  ZRareBasepoints10 = 1200,
  ZRareBasepoints09 = 1175,
  ZRareBasepoints08 = 1150,
  ZRareBasepoints07 = 1125,
  ZRareBasepoints06 = 1100,
  ZRareBasepoints05 = 1080,
  ZRareBasepoints04 = 1060,
  ZRareBasepoints03 = 1040,
  ZRareBasepoints02 = 1020,
  ZRareBasepoints01 = 1000,
  ZRareBasepoints00 = 750,
  ZRareBonusamount14 = 4,
  ZRareBonusamount13 = 4,
  ZRareBonusamount12 = 4,
  ZRareBonusamount15 = 4,
  ZRareBonusamount11 = 3,
  ZRareBonusamount10 = 3,
  ZRareBonusamount09 = 3,
  ZRareBonusamount08 = 2,
  ZRareBonusamount07 = 2,
  ZRareBonusamount06 = 2,
  ZRareBonusamount05 = 1,
  ZRareBonusamount04 = 1,
  ZRareBonusamount03 = 0,
  ZRareBonusamount02 = 0,
  ZRareBonusamount01 = 0,
  ZRareBonusamount00 = 0,
  EffectSkillChanceQuot = 5,
  RangeAggroBoss = 750,
  DamScaleIncMax = 1500,
  DamScaleRatioMin = 150,
  DamScaleRatioMax = 300,
  IsRuneForHero = 400,
  DropMaxRandomRare = 12,
  DropPowerupRare = 4,
  ExpFac0 = 110,
  ExpFac1 = 200,
  ExpFac2 = 150,
  ExpFac3 = 40,
  ExpFac4PM = 1000,
  ExpFacAdjust = 200,
  attrSdam_fact = 334,
  attrWdam_fact = 250,
  AdjustRegenFactor = 1000,
  TraderOfferUpperRareBase = 6,
  PotionHealCooldown = 500,
  UBspawn_fact = 175,
  Forge_PricePerSlot = 500,
  RuneMalusThreshold = 150,
  ExpLS100 = 985,
  ExpLS125 = 980,
  ExpLS150 = 975,
  ExpLS175 = 970,
  SkillMagicFindFactor = 200,
  NumSectors = 3709,
}
mgr.setBalanceValues(newBalanceValues);

local beValues = {
  NORMAL_STANDARD = 350,
  NORMAL_RUNE = 15,
  CHAMP_STANDARD = 700,
  CHAMP_RUNE = 45,
  BOSS_STANDARD = 1000,
  BOSS_RUNE = 600,
  EXTRAGOLD = 0,
  EXTRAPOTION = 0,
  EXTRARUNE = 0,
  Trader_Item = 2300,
  Trader_Many = 10000,
  Trader_SpecialOffer = 0,
  Well_Potion = 1000,
  QUEST_UNIQUE = 0,
  SUBFAMDROP_LOWCHANCE = 10,
  SUBFAMDROP_HIGHCHANCE = 100,
}
mgr.setBalanceBase (beValues);


local basetables = {

  tableRows = 16,

-- begin of some hard-coded data
  EFFECTDURATION = {500,3000,5000,5000},
-- end of hard-coded data
  QuestExplow = {20,25,30,40,50},
  QuestGoldlow = {25,30,35,40,50},
  SpellFactorDiff = {800,1000,1200,1500,2000},
  QuestGoldmax = {3025,4030,5035,6040,8050},
  LifeFactorDiff = {1000,1200,1500,2000,2500},
  DefenseFactorDiff = {650,1000,1500,2500,4500},
  QuestExpmax = {4020,5025,6030,8040,10050},
  MP_experience = {1000,1150,1325,1550,1825},
  NPC_speedfac_any = {1000,1050,1100,1175,1250},
  DamageFactorDiff = {900,1000,1200,1350,1500},
  AttackFactorDiff = {650,1000,1750,2750,4500},
  MP_damage = {1000,1050,1100,1160,1220},
  MP_lifeHP = {1000,1300,1650,2100,2650},
  MP_EShieldHP = {1000,1300,1650,2100,2650},
  MP_combatvalue = {1000,1100,1210,1330,1460},
  MP_armor = {1000,1100,1210,1330,1460},
  Spawn_OffsetLow = {0,0,40,70,110},
  Spawn_OffsetHigh = {0,35,80,120,175},
  Spawn_FactorPM = {1000,1100,1175,1250,1350},
  PriceFactor = {700,1000,1400,1900,2500},
  RuneLevel = {1,1,20,35,50},
  Potion_big_duration = {9000,9000,9000,9000,7500},
  Potion_small_duration = {9000,8000,7000,5500,4000},
  Potion_middle_duration = {9000,9000,8000,7000,6000},
  NPC_attrWdam_fact = {1000,1100,1250,1500,2000},
  MP_intensity = {1000,1100,1210,1330,1460},
  LevelCapDiff = {60,100,140,180,200},
  BlacksmithSkillForDiff = {1,20,60,105,150},
  LevelMinForDiff = {1,1,60,100,140},
  AllEnemy_lvl = {1,5,10,20,200},
  Enemy_armor = {800,850,900,1000,2800},
  Enemy_weapondamage = {650,750,850,1000,3700},
  Enemy_spelldamage = {500,650,800,900,2700},
  LifeQuotientMT = {3000,1000,200,200},
  SpellAttackFactorMT = {1000,1330,2000,2000},
  SpellDefenseFactorMT = {1000,1750,2500,2500},
  DamageFactorMT = {1000,1225,1500,1500},
  HitFactorMT = {1000,1500,2000,2000},
}
mgr.setBaseTables(basetables);

local subfamSlots =
{
  {"SUBFAM_HORSE_SADDLE",2},
  {"SUBFAM_SEC_ARMSHIELD",3},
  {"SUBFAM_SEC_FOCUSITEM",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_SWORD",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_FISTWEAPON",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_SHORTSWORD",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_SABER",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_DAGGER",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_CLUB",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_HAMMER",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_AXE",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_WHIP",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_CHAINWEAPON",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_BASTARDSWORD",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_2H_AXE",4},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_2H_HAMMER",4},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_2H_SWORD",4},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_JAVELIN",4},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_HALBERD",4},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_MAGESTAFF",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_ENERGY_PISTOL",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_ENERGY_WEAPON",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_SHORTBOW",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_LONGBOW",4},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_THROW_DAGGER",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_THROW_STAR",2},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_HELMET",3},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_SHOULDER",2},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_CHEST",4},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_ARM",1},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_HAND",1},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_LEG",1},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_BOOT",1},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_WINGS",2},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_POLE",4},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_BELT",4},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_CLOTH_HEAD",3},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_CLOTH_SHOULDER",2},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_CLOTH_ARM",1},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_CLOTH_CHEST",4},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_CLOTH_LEG",1},
  {"SUBFAM_ARMOR_HEAD_TG",3},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_MAGESTAFF_2H",4},
  {"SUBFAM_PRI_BLOWGUN",3},
  {"SUBFAM_MOUNT_CONTROL",2},
  {"SUBFAM_MOUNT_PROTECT",2},
  {"SUBFAM_WEAPON_BATTERY",2},
}
mgr.loadSubfamSlots(subfamSlots)


local subfamDroplists =
{
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_ANIMAL",1501},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_ANIMAL_ATMO",1502},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_BARBARIAN",1503},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_DEMON",1504},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_DRAGON",1505},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_ENERGY",1506},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_HIGHELF",1507},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_HUMAN",1508},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_INSECT",1509},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_MECHANICAL",1510},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_MONSTER",1511},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_ORC",1512},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_PLANT",1513},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_REPTILE",1514},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_T_MUTATION",1515},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_UNDEAD",1516},
  {"SUBFAM_LIFE_DRYAD",1518},
  {"SUBFAM_TRAP_TURRET",1517},
  {"SUBFAM_TRAP_SWITCH",1517},
  {"SUBFAM_TRAP_AREA",1517},
  {"SUBFAM_TRAP_PHYSICS",1517},
}
mgr.loadSubfamDroplists(subfamDroplists)


local shrinkheadMinionMap =
{
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_ANIMAL",1527,1528,1529},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_BARBARIAN",1562,1561,1563},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_DRAGON",1538,1537,1539},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_HIGHELF",1535,1534,1536},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_HUMAN",1549,1548,1550},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_INSECT",1588,1589,1590},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_MONSTER",1543,1542,1541},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_ORC",1558,1557,1559},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_T_MUTATION",1555,1554,1556},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_UNDEAD",1545,1544,1546},
        {"SUBFAM_LIFE_DRYAD",1552,1551,1553},

}
mgr.loadShrinkheadMinionMap(shrinkheadMinionMap)

gullong

很多人用高精MM，都会用到冰棘和火墙吧？这两个CA都是为了群杀而存在的。
但有时范围效果并不理想，例如，面对多个中远距离的敌人时，高精MM发出的是冰棘一小束，火焰一小戳。
因为我们习惯性地将鼠标锁定在敌人身上，导致了攻击范围的缩小，并非都是地形影响。
当初我也以为这是集中火力攻其一点的人性化设计，但测试之后发现，其伤害值都是一样的，只有命中次数有区别。
下次面对敌人时，试试将鼠标指针移至玩家角色附近的空地，再施放冰棘或火墙，其辐射范围就比较大了。最好别点在玩家角色的身上，会无法判定方向的。
游戏设定冰棘的最大角度是180度，玩家点在角色身上施放可达到190度。火墙的最大角度为270度，但即便贴身施放也不超过240度。
另外，天使MM若是使用两个火球的话，也可用这个方法增大角度，两个火球以鼠标点击处作为交汇点，成X轨迹飞行。但命中率太低，不推荐使用。
此法只为方便刚接触圣域2的朋友，高手们就不要笑话我啦......




前面几页都是两张图，都是论坛为期六天的附件炎遗留下的疤痕，请大家多保函^^

[ 本帖最后由 gullong 于 2009-1-6 17:12 编辑 ]

Pharaoh

这个1代就这样了

PS，还是很怀念1代的战法啊，超级强大，关键是敌人没有免疫，战法一个冰晶通杀~~

gullong

虽然我的本本还留有1代，但1代离我太远了......
那时后玩得很疯，个个人物要研究，样样技能要无敌，件件装备要过目......
最后不是玩腻的，而是用GM8的内存修改改腻的......

Pharaoh

1代里，好东西都是从商店里刷出来的，这是1代最失败的地方，整天刷商店太无聊了……
2代也差不多，+技能的东西也是从商店里刷出来，不过2代刷商店更麻烦，不像1代可以在勇气岩的那两个商店刷，不用走路的，2代不行
所以我2代从来不升什么交易技能的 (当然，暗影也没这技能……)，实在要刷还是改balance吧~~~

amdparadise

1代勇气砦的那两个经典商人，不知道被我刷了多少次。
不过mf容易堆，我身上也不怎么缺套装和暗金。不过首饰真是太难出了，商店卖的又搓。

Pharaoh

2代很多装备上的MF属性需要EP来解开，这点很郁闷，我正在考虑把Constitution替换成EP，反正毁灭冲击可以回血~~(当然，我回去还要先试一下毁灭冲击的回血效果怎么样)

gullong

昨天又重建了一个六翼，这回是完全没有修改任何参数了，我把所有数据都还原了一遍。
禁用BFG，不刷商店，只靠捡，速跑主线，支线任务是为了要点经验好尽快让人物初步成型。
还是老话，近战主流加力量，双持便宜大。但一开始没得选，剑盾弓镖挑好的使。
我对敌兵的战术是牵线木偶式打法，利用1系和2系buff的反伤加照明范围持续伤害，堆击退率，聚敌光柱连盛怒打击，创造类似异次元斩的机会。
对付主线的第一条龙时，临时T能盾和反弹神术只能用一次，其余时间就用光柱和盛怒的CA加平砍，红瓶黄瓶尽管用。搞定收工，7个小时也该休息了......

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