最后神迹 几个实用?的Formation分享 (更新一个阵型的范例讲解)

revanhsu

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更新:
看有些人还是不太懂formation要求的属性是怎么回事 直接翻译一个wiki的范例比较容易懂
话说搬运formation的那帖子怎么没加这个进来  @@

假设现在想组成 Raider's Fork (强化阵型为Marauders' Glaive ):
Raiders' Fork I         None
Raiders' Fork II         2x Physical
Raiders' Fork III         2x Physical, 1x Special

Marauders' Glaive I         2x Physical, 2x Special
Marauders' Glaive II         3x Physical, 2x Special, 1x Leader without Special
Marauders' Glaive III         4x Physical, 2x Special, 1x Leader without Special


单独放黑猫进队伍       => Raiders' Fork I
黑猫+Baulson             => Raiders' Fork III      (因为两人都有Physical属性 而且黑猫有Special属性)
黑猫+鱼人将军            => Marauders' Glaive I   (两人皆有Physical 和 Special)
黑猫+鱼人+青蛙将军    => Marauders' Glaive I   (三人皆有Physical 和 Special  你需要一位有Physical但是没有Sepcial的人才能升级)
黑猫+鱼人+Baulson      => Marauders' Glaive II  (三人有Physical 但Baulson没有Special 因此可以升级)

话说阵型的属性配对就是这么一回事...

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版上已经有人把formation的资料都搬来了 这里只分享个人觉得不错的formation
(都有双重强化,有额外特殊属性, 无降低属性等)

标题有个问号是因为这是我纯粹看数据发的
实际上用起来怎样是不太清楚 还没玩到那么后面

以下都是以英文为主 日文有请各位自己对照一下
除了Claws' Grasp以外 其他leader属性需求都是Xbox版的 实际上配对可能会有差异

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强化ATK: Whirlpool -> Maelstorm -> Hurricane

效果                    特殊1, 2, 3, 4, 5                    Atk, Def1                         Spd2, 5         Def3, 4         Str3, 4
Hurricane I         Weapon Art efficacy +1         135%                         95%                 135%         95%
Hurricane II         Weapon Art efficacy +2         150%                         95%                 150%         95%
Hurricane III         Weapon Art efficacy +3         200%                         100%         200%         100%

入手方法
#Whirlpool-  Sword of the Three Realms的43号任务: The Collector (收集 2 pelts of Archfiend Fur)
#Maelstrom- Fornstrand的宝箱
#Hurricane-  完成Loki个人任务" The Villain and the Sightless Girl"  

需求
Hurricane I         3x Physical, 3x Speed, 3x Special, 2x Mitra, 1x Yama, 1x Qsiti, 1x Sovani, 1x Leader without Special
Hurricane II         4x Physical, 4x Speed, 3x Special, 2x Mitra, 1x Yama, 1x Qsiti, 1x Sovani, 1x Leader without Special
Hurricane III         5x Physical, 5x Speed, 4x Special, 2x Mitra, 1x Yama, 1x Qsiti, 1x Sovani, 1x Leader without Special

简评
整体强化不错,而且站满人没有降低的属性, 另外有增强weapon arts的特殊属性  是三柱阵(Trident)以外的另一个好选择

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强化MYS: Prism -> Obelisk -> Pyramid

效果                 特殊1, 3, 4, 5                  Spd1                        Str, Int2                Mys3, 4, 5           Def, M.Def4, 5         Int4, 5
Pyramid I         Mystic Arts efficacy +1         135%                 135%                 135%                 95%                         135%
Pyramid II         Mystic Arts efficacy +2         150%                 150%                 150%                 95%                         150%
Pyramid III         Mystic Arts efficacy +3         200%                  200%                 200%                 100%                 200%

入手方法
#Prism-       Ring of the Labyrinth的任务10:( 宰了 Greentop).  
#Obelisk-    Mt. Vackel的宝箱
#Pyramid-   完成任务The Distant Promise.  

需求
Pyramid I         3x Physical, 3x Mystic, 3x Speed, 3x Recovery, 3x Special, 1x Leader without Special
Pyramid II         4x Physical, 4x Mystic, 4x Speed, 4x Recovery, 3x Special, 1x Leader without Special
Pyramid III         5x Physical, 5x Mystic, 5x Speed, 5x Recovery, 4x Special, 1x Leader without Special

简评
法师用的阵型, 而且特殊属性是强化法术的效力
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强化SPD: Whip -> Lash -> Flail

效果           无特殊      Atk, Mys1, 2, 3                 Spd1, 2, 3, 4, 5          Def, M.Def2, 3
Flail I                    135%                         135%                         95%
Flail II                 150%                         150%                         95%
Flail III                  200%                         200%                         100%

入手方法
#Whip-  Union of the Golden Chalice的任务34: (收集 a Sylph's Marquise)
#Lash-  Numor Mine的宝箱
#Flail-   完成任务Infestation

需求
Flail I                 3x Mystic, 5x Speed, 3x Recovery, 3x Special, 1x Leader without Special
Flail II         4x Mystic, 5x Speed, 4x Recovery, 3x Special, 1x Leader without Special
Flail III         5x Mystic, 5x Speed, 5x Recovery, 4x Special, 1x Leader without Special

简评
乍看无特殊, 但是此阵型强化"全部"五个人的SPD两倍, 适合救护队的阵型吧

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强化ATK & 鱼人(Yama)专用

效果                         特殊2, 3, 4, 5                 Def, M.Def1         Spd1, 2, 3                 Atk2, 3                 Def4, 5
Claws' Grasp I         Bonus vs. Dragon +1         95%                         135%                 135%                 135%
Claws' Grasp II         Bonus vs. Dragon +2         95%                         150%                 150%                 150%
Claws' Grasp III         Bonus vs. Dragon +3         100%                 200%                 200%                 200%

入手方法
#Pincers' Grip-     Union of the Golden Chalice的任务63: Battle Chains达到10
#Talons' Clutch-  The Southwestern Road的宝箱
#Claws' Grasp-    完成任务The Desert's Legend.  

需求
Claws' Grasp I         3x Physical, 2x Special, 3x Yama
Claws' Grasp II         4x Physical, 3x Special, 4x Yama
Claws' Grasp III         5x Physical, 4x Special, 5x Yama
(PC版本条件未明, 成功范例为Duke of Ghor, Baulson, Blocter, Yuniver and Zolean)

简评
应该是完美的屠龙阵型,强化ATK,SPD而且特殊属性对龙有加乘  配合鱼人的高攻, 相信后期杀龙是小菜一碟
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以上只有分享几个个人觉得不错的formation 算是抛砖引玉 希望各位可以分享自己的经验

[ 本帖最后由 revanhsu 于 2009-4-13 15:44 编辑 ]

cloudhao

这个挺不错，希望有人用过后给点意见更好

illera

LZ也辛苦了，昨天被白霸主虐的死去活来，阵型还真么好好研究过。

pigbest

玩了一半。。没换过阵。。。也别说没换过 打金龙打不过 听说换阵型能带来意想不到的好处  结果 开局第3回 喷了一口5组全倒  草（一种植物） 刷到现在就那1次让我感觉到了换阵型的强大 刷BAIZE唯一一次5组顺秒的经历 呵呵  自己是菜的时候往往有这种经历 其实我已经 习惯了  偶其实是来顶LZ的说

illera

因为不懂里面提到的需求所以WIKI了下给需要的人看


Formation Attributes
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The PC version is known to have a different mechanic from the Xbox360 version, on which this article is based. Should you discover anything about this mechanic, even a single combination of units that causes a formation to upgrade, then please edit as necessary, or post your findings on the discussion page.
Contents
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    * 1 The Basics
    * 2 Attribute Types
          o 2.1 Physical
          o 2.2 Mystic
          o 2.3 Speed
          o 2.4 Recovery
          o 2.5 Special
          o 2.6 Others
    * 3 Example
          o 3.1 Raiders' Fork
          o 3.2 Marauders' Glaive

The Basics

Everyone in your army, from heroes and generals down to hired soldiers, has Formation Attributes. These are used to determine the variant of the formation, and to unlock more powerful versions. Specific requirements for each variant and upgrade are listed on the formation's individual page. Formations can be browsed on the Formations Category page.
edit Attribute Types

The five basic attributes are Physical, Mystic, Speed, Recovery and Special, although occasionally race or sex may also be important. Generally, leaders have between two and five attributes and soldiers have either one or two. Unfortunately, this information is hidden within the game so getting the formation you want can be a little hit-and-miss.

Physical

Many characters with Combat Arts have this attribute. Of course, there are exceptions to this rule. Most leaders who have Physical also have Speed.

    * See here for a list of characters with the Physical attribute

Mystic

Many characters with Mystic Arts have this attribute, again there will be exceptions. Most leaders who have Mystic also have Recovery.

    * See here for a list of characters with the Mystic attribute

Speed

All soldiers who have two attributes have Speed as one of them. Most leaders who have Speed also have Physical.

    * See here for a list of characters with the Speed attribute

Recovery

Many characters with Remedies have this attribute. Most leaders who have Recovery also have Mystic.

    * See here for a list of characters with the Recovery attribute

Special

All heroes and most primary leaders have Special, most other leaders do not. Hired soldiers never have Special. Note that some of the more powerful formation variants require a Leader who does not have this attribute.

    * See here for a list of characters with the Special attribute

The following primary leaders do not have the Special attribute:

    * Baulson
    * Caedmon
    * Haruko
    * Jager
    * Leucetius
    * Nora


Others

The race (Mitra, Qsiti, Sovani or Yama) of a character should be obvious, as should their sex, so we won't list them here. All soldiers are male.
edit Example

We will use Raiders' Fork and its upgrade Marauders' Glaive as examples here. So, from the formations' page, we have:
Raiders' Fork

Sword of Three Realms - Task 26: The Collector (obtain 3 bottles of Land Insecta Fluid).
Variant         Requirements Xbox360 version
Raiders' Fork I         None
Raiders' Fork II         2x Physical
Raiders' Fork III         2x Physical, 1x Special
[edit] Marauders' Glaive

Heroic Ramparts - Treasure Chest
Variant         Requirements Xbox360 version
Marauders' Glaive I         2x Physical, 2x Special
Marauders' Glaive II         3x Physical, 2x Special, 1x Leader without Special
Marauders' Glaive III         4x Physical, 2x Special, 1x Leader without Special


Obviously you will need to have completed the guild task and opened the treasure chest in order for these formations to be available in the first place.

If you were to set up a Raiders' Fork formation with Torgal as the lone member, you would get no variant or upgrade.
Adding Baulson would unleash Raiders' Fork III, since both characters have the Physical attribute, and Torgal has Special. Note that a single character can fulfil more than one condition.
Replacing Baulson with Blocter will take you up to Marauders' Glaive, as both units now have Physical and Special.
Adding Pagus to the formation does nothing, he has Physical to fulfill one of the requirements for the next step, but you still need a Leader with no Special ability.
For this, we need Baulson back. Make him your fourth member and you will be upgraded all the way to Marauders' Glaive III. Note that the leader without the Special ability does not have to be the union leader (position 1).

Your new formation name will be displayed in a glorious green to remind you of just how much you have invested in it!

[ 本帖最后由 illera 于 2009-4-13 13:55 编辑 ]

illera

貌似很多强大的阵型要求队长不是SPECIAL的，哎，我是hero控不想找大众脸当队长。

lightking

都是无特殊技能的人当队长啊。。看来是要求平衡

revanhsu

楼上某楼认知错了 那写的leader不是指队长 是指队伍里面的人  看看wiki给的范例就知道了

越是强大的阵型要求队长的属性就越多  一般来说直接丢四将军还是一切全能人物应该阵型要全开了才是

但是为了平衡起见 都会多上一个条件  要有一个拥有physical mystic...等却没有special的人物

所以wiki上面提到那六位属性多但是没有special的人是必练的啊   
(第一个佣兵Baulson, 白猫Caedmon, 护士Haruko 黑人Jager BR80猫Leucetius 红帽女Nora )

尤其其中三个 (Nora,Caedmon,Baulson)早期就雇的到

个个都是拿来充队员的好料

其中如果要破全任务, 白猫,Nora还附带一定可以能力觉醒 真是优待到家了

[ 本帖最后由 revanhsu 于 2009-4-13 15:32 编辑 ]

illera

All heroes and most primary leaders have Special
哦，我没仔细看，以为有背景的都是HEROS，原来是剧情人物才是HEROS，

Heroes

    * Rush
    * Irina

       

    * David
    * Blocter

       

    * Emmy

       

    * Pagus

       

    * Torgal


edit Leaders

    * Allan
    * Darien
    * Duke of Ghor
    * Gabriel

       

    * Gaou
    * Glenys
    * Kate
    * Khrynia

       

    * Leshau
    * Loki
    * Maddox
    * Paris

       

    * Rhagoh
    * Roberto
    * Sibal
    * Sheryl

       

    * Violet
    * Wyngale
    * Yuniver
    * Zolean

本想好好重用大锤女无奈加入的时候和其他人血量等差距很大，最后放弃了。

[ 本帖最后由 illera 于 2009-4-13 17:08 编辑 ]

illera

7人众似乎没有阵型方面的说明，看来只能摸索了。

mingming-killer

整型还这么啰嗦~~~

从头到尾那个什么+攻击的箭头整型的飘过~~~

dylixuan

arrow of athlum是属于一款非常中规中矩的物理攻击类阵型，进阶条件简单，入手早
相关数据

                           Atk, Str1, 2         Def3, 4        Str3, 4   Int5          Spd5
Arrow of Athlum I         105%         105%         75%     105%         75%
Arrow of Athlum II         110%         110%         80%             110%         80%
Arrow of Athlum III         115%         115%         85%             115%         85%

gamsic

呵呵 阵型的技术贴 一定要支持楼主！ 二十+1

woshigemajia

支持下LZ。。。阿斯兰之剑的效果太一般了，基本上可以忽略不计了

sd621209

rush+emmy的2人队无法从Raiders' Fork 进阶到Marauders' Glaive I   
再尝试用rush+emmy+baulson3人队也无法进阶到Marauders' Glaive II  
继续尝试用blocter+baulson+gaou三个人也无法从Pincers' Grip进阶到Claws' Grasp I
请问大家遇见过这种情况吗？