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[讨论] 混沌的八角星有啥来源不 [复制链接]

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发表于 2008-10-12 18:16:11 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览


无独有偶,英雄无敌5里的大恶魔也是拿一把八角星东西,这有啥联系不

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沙发
发表于 2008-10-12 18:17:09 |只看该作者
当你看到一个八角形的路牌你不会觉得非常CHAO么
火星人路过

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板凳
发表于 2008-10-12 18:26:21 |只看该作者
老实说我觉得像加长版棒棒糖                        

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地板
发表于 2008-10-12 18:32:01 |只看该作者
..............

道理很简单 因为是八角型

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发表于 2008-10-12 20:55:24 |只看该作者
Symbol of Chaos                                        From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia                                                                                                Jump to: navigation, search
                                               
Symbol of Chaos



Variant of Symbol of Chaos


The Symbol of Chaos originates from Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion stories. In them, the Symbol of Chaos comprises eight arrows in a radial pattern. In contrast, the symbol of Law is a single upright arrow. It is also called the Arms of Chaos, the Arrows of Chaos, the Chaos Star or the Symbol of Eight.
Moorcock conceived this symbol while writing the first Elric of Melniboné stories in the early 1960s. It was subsequently adopted into the pop-cultural mainstream, turning up in such diverse places as role-playing games and modern occult traditions.
Moorcock says [1]
The origin of the Chaos Symbol was me doodling sitting at the kitchen table and wondering what to tell Jim Cawthornthe arms of Chaos looked like. I drew a straightforward geographicalquadrant (which often has arrows, too!) – N, S, E, W – and then addedanother four directions and that was that – eight arrows representingall possibilities, one arrow representing the single, certain road ofLaw. I have since been told to my face that it is an "ancient symbol ofChaos" and if it is then it confirms a lot of theories about the race mind. … As far as I know the symbol, drawn by Jim Cawthorn, first appeared on an Elric cover of Science Fantasy in 1962, then later appeared in his first comic version of Stormbringer done by Savoy [ISBN 0-7045-0226-7].

An even-more-chaotic asymmetrical representation was by Walter Simonson in the Michael Moorcock's Multiverse comic (and subsequent graphic novel: ISBN 1-56389-516-1).
There are a number of traditional symbols that have the samegeometrical pattern as Moorcock's symbol of Chaos – for example: any ofvarious eight-pointed stars, such as this one from a Greek vase from the fifth century BCE, and the star of Ishtar/Venus; the Eastern Dharmacakra; and the Wheel of the Year – but none of these were symbols of chaos and their limbs are not arrows.
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[edit] GamesThe symbol's first appearance in a commercial role-playing game (RPG) was in TSR's Dungeons & Dragons supplement, Deities & Demigods (1980; ISBN 0-935696-22-9)[2] which included the gods, monsters, and heroes from Moorcock's Elric books as one of 17 mythological and fictional "pantheons". (Copyright problems led to its omission from later editions.)
It then turned up quite naturally in Chaosium's Stormbringer RPG (one edition of which was published as Elric!) (1980-2003; ISBN 1-56882-152-2). The 1987 edition of Stormbringer was published jointly by Chaosium in the U.S. and Games Workshop (GW) in the UK.
Moorcock's eight-arrow symbol of Chaos was subsequently arrogated by GW and became a frequent graphic element in their own Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000 games and the related miniature figures (e.g., these Knights of Chaos).
A slightly modified version can been seen as orcish tattoos on Chris Metzen's Warcraft art. Most noticeably on the character Grom Hellscream.
The Heretic and HeXenseries of video games feature the symmetrical version of the symbol onthe Chaos Device item, which teleports the player back to the beginningof the level.
The symbol was also the logo for Chessex, a games distributor now part of Diamond Comic Distributors.

[edit] MusicThe video/music group Psychic TV incorporates chaos symbols into itsalbum artwork for Allegory and Self(1988), with artwork from AustinOsman Spare who is considered to be the grandfather of chaos magick.See also T.O.P.Y http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_TV
The dark/folk UK band Fire + Ice has the chaos symbol in its logoplus ties to chaos magick. With members of Current 93, Death in Juneand Sol Invictus.
the UK noise/trance band Skullflower's 1990 album RUINS has a pairof hands tied at the wrist with the chaos symbol on one of the hands(as if in initiation).
The German death/thrash band Eternal Dirge incorporates the chaossymbol into its artwork and shirts with a CD-ROM multi-media tract ofan animated chaosphere on its 1996 album KHAOS MAGICK.
The Swedish progressive metal band Meshuggah has an album entitled Chaosphere.
The Norwegian black metal band 1349 used the symbol on their self-titled debut EP, which contains a song called "Chaos Within".
Another Norwegian band, Arcturus displayed the symbol at the beginning of the song "The Chaos Path" in their live DVD Shipwrecked in Oslo.
The Brazilian thrash metal band Sepultura has an album entitled Chaos A.D. depicting the chaos symbol on the compact disc itself.
The American thrash metal band Testament features the chaos symbol on the cover of their album The Ritual. The first track of which is called "Signs of Chaos."
The Polish blackened death metal band Behemoth incorporates the chaos symbol in one of their logos.
The English experimental band Coil often uses the Cross of Chaos as a symbol on album covers and official releases.
The English death metal band Bolt Throweruses the symbol in much of their artwork, the bonus track on the album"Those Once Loyal" (2005) is called "A Symbol of Eight". This can belinked with musicians' taking inspiration from Warhammer tabletopwargames.
The Swedish black metal band Craft uses the chaos symbol on the album cover for "Fuck the Universe."
The Dutch black metal band Vazal uses the chaos symbol on the compact disk itself for the album "Age of Chaos."
The Cleveland, Ohio heavy metal band Chimaira uses a modified symbol of chaos with a C in the middle as a logo.
The Richmond, Virginia heavy metal band Gwar uses the chaos symbol in a lot of their artwork and a version of it is featured on the back of the album This Toilet Earth. The lead singer, Dave Brockie (Oderus Urungus) also has a version of the symbol tattooed on his back, and guitarist Cory Smoot (Flattus Maximus)has one inlaid in the fretboard of his guitar. Most recently, thesymbol was modified into a thing some know as "Eighth Lock". Featuredon the back of the Beyond Hell album. It is also used in Phallus inWonderland as the wheel for GWAR's ship. The symbol is now a stage propoften planted in front of Jizmak's (Brad Roberts) drum set.
The French black metal act Ördög has a logo that is a Chaostar withthe letter Ö in the middle and the upward-pointing arrow lengthened sothat the logo resembles an inverted cross.
The American thrash metal band Project: Failing Flesh use the Chaos symbol on the cover of their album A Beautiful Sickness.

[edit] Modern traditionsThe eight-arrow symbol of Chaos is used in chaos magic, as is its 3D analog, the Chaos Sphere.
Alternative symbols of chaos (owing nothing to Moorcock) include the Sacred Chao of Discordianism and the The Five Fingered Hand of Eris.

[edit] PunkIn hitch-hiker, punk, and backpacker subculture, this symbol, knownas the Chaos Cross, frequently appears in tattoos. The right of thetattoo is generally passed from a current bearer of the symbol to aclose friend, as a sort of rite of passage. In this context, the ChaosCross is seen to symbolize freedom of thought and motion, strength, anddedication; also, it carries some mystical or occult connotations.Additionally, the Chaos Cross or Chaos Symbol continues to be used by avariety of (mostly) left wing and anarchist hardcore, grindcore, andcrust punk bands including Leftover Crack, Mouth Sewn Shut (featured on a back patch and in some band artwork [3]), Phobia(featured on the vinyl inlay of the "enslaved" 7")and others. Thoughthe symbol may be considered a rite of passage among some punkcurrents, it is also largely used as an overall recalcitrant andiconoclastic anarchist and nihilist punk symbol used to connotepersonal freedom, autonomy, and a sense of harmony that comes from"chaos" emphasizing the ideological tendencies of these cultures tocall for the destruction of the state, authoritarian power structures,and capitalist/spectacle/consumer culture/Western Civilization as awhole.

[edit] OtherIt is also used as the symbol of House Clovenshield, a mercenary group in the Society for Creative Anachronism that fights for whoever pays the most bacon and beer.

Gameloft, Ubisoft, Activision,呆着吧,呆着吧

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发表于 2008-10-12 21:31:15 |只看该作者
楼上的版主既然从亚空间里出来了,闹好翻译一下行不,要不叫夜莺在临睡前小试一把!

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发表于 2008-10-12 22:19:41 |只看该作者
大略看了一下,似乎是说由于这个标志八个箭头指向不同的方向,所以表示混乱。相对的,秩序就是一根直箭头

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发表于 2008-10-12 22:33:52 |只看该作者
我只想知道小学用的米字格作业本的来源是啥
嗯……战锤不2   也没2   谢谢……

耍牛B的锤盲 就如同拿黑金属装B的贱人

你们说DOW是SC版的WC  我便说SC2是LOLI版的DOW2

现在暴白说他们都是无辜的 暴白只知道暴雪游戏 所以能够知道战锤 首先就是遭到锤白的主动攻击 瞧瞧 他们都成正当防卫了

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发表于 2008-10-15 00:36:10 |只看该作者
我的桌面就是Chaos的印记。。。

还准备把 我以前的银手镯银链子个熔掉
做成Chaos的挂饰 。。。(最好在上面来些小雕刻弄 几张扭曲的面孔。。)

20.EXE

[ 本帖最后由 Hgrunt 于 2008-10-15 00:45 编辑 ]
为了混沌四神~~~!为了圣主洛嘉~~!
以恐虐之名-斩汝首级
以奸奇之名-篡汝命运
以纳垢之名-腐汝躯体
以色孽之名-诱汝心志

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发表于 2008-10-15 12:12:55 |只看该作者
“我只想知道小学用的米字格作业本的来源是啥”。。。完了,天朝的灵魂看来被CHAOS动过了。。。
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即将高三,可能挂号一年,大家见谅

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发表于 2008-10-15 19:51:58 |只看该作者
lol


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发表于 2008-10-15 20:33:01 |只看该作者
谁把那鹅语翻译一下方便我们实地瞻仰......

DE AMORE DE VITA......

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发表于 2008-10-15 20:34:06 |只看该作者

回复 #11 ravage 的帖子

11 楼搞笑,哈哈,不过倒是挺好地解释了这个问题。。。

[ 本帖最后由 spazz 于 2008-10-15 20:35 编辑 ]

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发表于 2008-10-15 20:45:53 |只看该作者
居然还真的有这种东西,毛子有毛病
火星人路过

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发表于 2008-10-15 20:54:02 |只看该作者
恶魔的标志

就好象代表上帝的 + 字一样道理

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发表于 2008-10-15 21:23:49 |只看该作者

转载一段文字

以色列的国旗上面是一颗硕大的六角星----“Star of David”,象征着赫赫有名的大卫王(King of David:1037 BC--967 BC)。在其相邻的埃及,也有一颗星星四处闪耀,这就是八角星。

       阿拉伯装饰纹样,除了模拟枝叶藤蔓,还喜欢用几何图案,其中最常见的图案就是八角星,是由两个正方形拼合而成。在开罗的大街小巷,随处可见,地砖、外墙装饰、窗户棂子、家具纹路,都多用八角星来做装饰纹路。我每天早上等候公司班车的那个花坛,也是一颗大八角星。八角星象征着什么?八个方位?或者和咱们中国的八卦有什么联系?八角星的起源是什么?我把我的疑问向埃及同事述说,他们不大清楚;在网上搜了一通,google大仙和维基大师都请了,也没有找到答案。

       八角星的一个变种,按照施莱夫利法则(Schläfli symbol)被称为“8/3星型多边形”,在清真寺纷繁复杂的花纹装饰中也是很常见的一种形式。据说这种星,实际上代表了太阳,是太阳纹的一种,在各国的新石器时代的出土器物中都出现过。比如说安徽含山县凌家滩出土的这头玉鹰,在其肚腹部位就是一颗八角星,距今5300多年前。

       伊拉克1959---1963年的国旗正中也是这样一颗八角星,而在俄罗斯的几个加盟共和国的国旗上也有这颗象征着太阳的八角星,比如位于伏尔加大区的乌德穆尔特共和国的国旗。

       因为清真寺的礼拜塔林立,开罗号称是千塔之城。这些塔中,最常见的样式有两种,一种是象铅笔一样直刺云霄的马木留克式,如默罕默德·阿里清真寺的礼拜塔;还有一种形式上要复杂的多,也是最常见的奥斯曼式样,礼拜塔为正八边形(八角星八个顶点相连),每个边分别对着东、东北、北、西北、西、西南、南、东南八个方位,如拉姆西斯广场的法赫德清真寺的高塔。

       阿拉伯人和犹太人都属于闪族人的后代,亚伯拉罕的子孙,虽然在现在还有血海深仇,但毕竟有着很深的文化和历史渊源。八角星和大卫星这颗六角星之间会不会有什么联系?会不会这两颗星都和崇拜光明的琐罗亚斯德教(Zoroastrianism)有关系?

       搜索一番,中文和英文信息里面都没有准确内容,只有一些似是而非的推测。但也不是没有收获,我在维基百科上查“Star of David”时找到一张图,是犹太教圣经----《塔纳赫》(Tanakh)的现存最早的列宁格勒古抄本封面,距今有一千年,图案正中是一颗大卫星,可紧紧包围着它的是一颗八角星。

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发表于 2008-10-16 00:54:04 |只看该作者
以前有一阿姨拿了一盒恶魔问我是哪里产的.
我回答说是大B国产的
阿姨说难怪上面还有大B国国旗

从那时候我就一直在汗

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发表于 2008-10-19 09:29:09 |只看该作者
原帖由 ravage 于 2008-10-15 19:51 发表
lol




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