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矿车微操

英文作者：Luk3us


The GDI Harvester

GDI 矿车


The GDI Harvester has 7,500 hp and a machine gun mounted on it. Its machine gun can kill Attack bikes reasonably well. Unfortunately attack bikes, out range the machine gun. However, if the situation becomes desperate you can charge your harvesters towards the bikes. The machine gun is also good at killing infantry too. As such they can be used as an anti infantry unit should the need arise, but remember it is generally better put to use gather Tiberium.

GDI的矿车拥有7500的血量，并且安装有一架机枪，他的机枪可以很轻松的消灭掉Nod的攻击摩托车。不幸的是，机枪的射程没有攻击摩托远。不过，如果情况危急，你可以让你的矿车冲向攻击摩托。这架机枪对付敌方的步兵也很有效。如果需要，它可以被用作反步兵单位，不过记住最好用它来采矿。

The Nod Harvester

Nod 矿车


The Nod Harvester has 5,000 hp and has its own cloaking device. It has a tendency to stop on a Tiberium patch, move forward a bit, and then start harvesting the Tiberium patch. This can leave you with kind of a chequered Tiberium field and your Harvester will likely start to wonder far away from the Refinery, even though there is Tiberium close to it. Be sure to watch for this and to tell your Harvester to harvest Tiberium that is near the Refinery.

Nod的矿车拥有5000的血量，并且自身携带隐形装置。它采矿的模式是这样的，先停在一块泰矿上，向前移动一点，然后开始采矿。这样特殊的采矿方式，可能会给你留下一小块一小块类似象棋棋盘一样的矿场，甚至于你的矿车会视而不见矿厂附近的泰矿，而独自跑到远离矿厂的地方去。因此，一定要看住它们，让它们尽可能的去采矿厂周围的矿。（译者：也就是说，nod的矿车可能丢三落四采不干净矿。。。）

You can use the Decoy Army support power on your Harvesters, giving you a stealthed scouting unit for only 500 credits. Since the Nod harvester is stealthed, it can sneak up on infantry and run over them, though be aware it will un-steath once it gets close to infantry. Using the Nod harvester like this should be more of a last resort, than anything else. Remember the Nod harvester has low health and should be repaired if it is heavily damage else a simple pitbull may kill it easily.

你可以把复制军队的技能用在矿车上，这样你只需要花费500，就可以得到一个隐形侦察单位。因为Nod的矿车是隐形的，你可以用它们悄悄接近步兵，然后辗过它们，当然要注意当他们靠近步兵的时候是会显形的。这招应该是在万不得已的时候使用。时刻记住，Nod的矿车的血量最少，如果被重创了一定要尽快修理，否则甚至一辆斗犬都可以把它轻松消灭掉。

The Scrin Harvester

Scrin 矿车


The Scrin Harvester has 7,500 hp and can regenerate when in Tiberium. Unlike the other two harvesters the Scrin harvester does not take much damage from a Catalyst Missile. Although its effect on Tiberium may cause some light damage.

Scrin 的矿车拥有7500的血量，并且在泰矿上可以自动恢复（＝004＝）。与其他两种矿车不同的是，催化炸弹对矿车造成的伤害很小，尽管它对泰矿的连锁反应会对矿车造成轻微的伤害。

The Scrin harvester unlike its rivals, hovers and as such can not crush infantry, nor reverse move. Since Scrin harvesters can regenerate in Tiberium, as such harassment of these units is more difficult, because if the harassment force does not kill the harvester in the first wave, it will likely be healed by the time a second wave is launched.

与它的敌人们不同，Scrin的矿车是悬浮运动的，因此它们不能碾压步兵，也不能倒退。由于Scrin的矿车可以在泰矿上自动恢复，因此，骚扰它们会更加困难。如果骚扰部队的第一波攻击没有消灭它，那么在第二波攻击到来前，它也许已经复原了。

Scouting & Defence

侦察与防守


To prevent losing harvesters try to scout the local area, so that you can see enemy forces coming early. If you do see some bikes for example coming, simply reverse your harvesters back towards your base. The Nod harvester is greatest at risk, if there are detector units about, as it has the lowest hp of all the harvesters.

为了避免失去你的矿车，最好尽可能的侦察你周围的地区，以便你可以更早的发现来袭的敌人。比如，如果你看到一群摩托向你驶来，立刻让你的矿车们退向你的基地。如果敌方有探隐部队的话，Nod的矿车会面临的更大的威胁，因为他们的血量是所有矿车里最少的。

If the harassment force follows your harvesters in, try to dance them around buildings using reverse move to try and avoid taking a few hits before reinforcements arrive. If the enemy is about to attack your base, which just so happens to be beside a Tiberium field, move your harvesters away. As most players will easily kill a few harvesters before turning to take on your army and base defences.

如果骚扰部队跟着你的矿车攻进来，在援兵到来前，试着让你的矿车倒退着绕着建筑物行进，以避免受到更大的伤害。如果你的敌人打算攻打你在泰矿旁边的基地，那么赶快把你的矿车移开。因为大多数玩家在攻击你的军队和防御之前，都会先消灭你的一些矿车。

An important thing to remember when using Nod harvesters, that a catalyst missile, will kill any harvester in close proximity. But even if you are not using Nod harversters, you should still move your harvesters away from Refineries or Tiberium fields when you hear the Catalyst Missile launch.

当你使用Nod矿车的时候，有件非常重要的事情你一定要记住，那就是催化炸弹可以消灭在附近的任何矿车。即使你没有使用Nod矿车，在你听到催化炸弹发射的警告时，也应该让你的矿车们离开矿厂或者矿区。

Power Offline ability

断电能力

If a refinery is ready to be built, but your under attack and don't want your harvester being attacked. Place the refinery down as you usually would, but use the power off icon to power down the structure, before it finishes its build animation. This will prevent the harvester from popping out of the refinery.

如果你正在被敌人攻击时，一个矿厂刚好造好，这时你当然不愿意矿车遭受攻击。你要做的只是把矿厂放置在你想要的地方，然后在建造动画完成前，把它断电。这样你的矿车就不会从矿场里出来。

Once the danger has passed, simply power back up the refinery , and your harvester will pop out, safe and ready to harvest Tiberium.

一旦危险解除，只需要简单的恢复矿厂的电力，你的矿车就会出现，继续安全的采矿了。

Wandering Harvesters

闲逛的矿车

When the game enters the late game, tiberium fields are likely to become empty, forcing the harvesters to move to greener pastures. Try to keep an eye on your harvesters to prevent them from wandering towards an enemy held tiberium field.

进入游戏后期的时候，泰矿很可能已经枯竭，让你的矿车开往更绿一点的牧场吧。只是要时刻关注你的矿车，避免它们逛到敌人控制的矿区去。

A good example of harversters wandering is on maps like Tournament Arena and Tournament Tower, where it is likely bases are close to each other, and those harvesters have a problem telling friend from foe sometimes.

关于矿车的闲逛，TA和TT地图是很好的例子，因为双方的基地离得很近，而矿车们有时候没有能力辨别盟友和敌人。

[ 本帖最后由 hfmouse 于 2008-1-21 22:11 编辑 ]

black_side

不错，学习了，收藏起来。                      。

Gellan

开新贴了!支持!!!!!!

hfmouse

扰乱敌军——声东击西


英文作者：B00M

Reasons for distracting your opponent
扰乱敌军的原因

• You want to launch a real attack elsewhere
• You want to keep your opponent busy at several places; micro simply gets worse if you are forced to watch at several spots on the map
• You want to be the one in charge, and let him follow you instead of the other way around
• You want to slow down their tech tree/expansion

• 你想在其他地方发动真的进攻
• 你想让你的敌人忙于同时应付多个地方的攻击。同时关注地图上的几个地方，会使得微操变差。
• 你想牵着你敌人的鼻子走，避免他对你有其他的举动
• 你想减慢敌人的攀科技＋扩张速度

How to launch a successful distraction
如何进行成功的扰敌行动

This is something that surely needs to be addressed. People will try to worry their opponent by sending 4 or 5 units on one flank and attack with 20 on another, lets be honest, this is way too obvious and anyone even slightly witty will not fall for this; if however you make the groups 10 / 15 , you got a good chance of getting a successful attack off; at BOTH points where you’re attacking. So the group doesn't even count as distraction but also to damage him, which is even better right?

这是一定要说明的。如果你试图只用4－5个单位佯攻敌人一翼来吸引敌人的注意力，而用20个单位攻击另一翼，说实话，这种做法太明显了，任何有一点常识的人都不会上当的。但是如果你把兵力分成10/15的话，你将更有可能在两点成功的实施进攻行动。你的佯攻部队（不仅是传统意义的佯攻）也可以消灭敌人，这不是更好么？


Now how would I do that?
现在我该怎么做？

Simple; the flexibility of the unit matters a lot. Respond quick to his actions and remove the forces from where he’s coming if he’s moving with a stronger force, you can go head-on if you think you got a chance or you really want a longer opening for your other force.

简单来说，你部队的灵活性是关键。对敌人的行动作出快速反应，让你的部队从敌人优势兵力的来路上撤走，当然如果你认为有机会或者你想为实攻部队拖延更长的时间，你也可以迎头而上。

Lets assume you want to save your "bait" units. Try to do as much damage as possible and then Reverse move back to another point on the map , map control helps in this case ( eg Tournament Arena; having both spikes or at least the bunkers there so you know you’re not running in enemy forces) . While you’re doing the first attack and see his first reaction to it , send in group 2 and attack on the other side; now if he didn’t split up himself, he’s going to either have to chase group 1 and let group 2 be and fend it off with new units (slow) , or send in all to group 2 . Most likely people tend to take everything back (especially those lazy “Select all “ / “Attack move” people (I used to be one of them, I can tell )) to group 2; come back in with group 1 again and remove or fight with group 2.

如果你想保存你的“诱饵”部队，尽可能多的造成伤害，然后倒退到地图上的另一位置，地图控制在这种情况下很有帮助（比如，TA图，撤到两个矿柱，或者至少到那里的地堡，也就是避免你冲入敌军）。当你进行第一波攻击并且看到敌人的反应时，把你的实攻部队派去攻击另一边。这时，如果你的敌人没有把它的部队兵分两路，他将有两个选择，要么继续追击你的佯攻部队，派遣新的部队去攻击你的实攻部队（那将会很慢），要么把所有部队都转向攻击你的实攻部队。大多数人倾向于夺回所有失去的东西而去攻击实攻部队（特别是那些用“全选”＋“攻击模式”的懒玩家（其实我也是其中一员。。译者：汗。。。））这时，让你的佯攻部队掉头回来，让你的实攻部队撤退，或者两面夹攻一起战斗。

Basically this is the concept of Flanking more than Distracting, but it also applies with it, and hence theres no use to a new topic especially for flanking.

基本来说，相比扰乱敌人，这其实是两翼进攻的概念，但是它也是扰乱敌人的应用，因此，我们不会有特别的文章来专门讲述两翼进攻了。

Before engaging in a large battle, try to thin out your opponents army so that you have not only micro control, but now have firepower control.

在进入大规模战斗前，试着去削弱你的敌人，这样你不仅需要微操，还需要火力控制。

To do so, first send a few "bait" units around the flank. Cause some damage and force him to chase you. (Many people you will play simply use "Q" and attack move so you are given a major upper hand if this is the case) You want to keep the bait units alive and on the move while you attack his harvesters/army.

首先让一些“诱饵”单位在侧翼徘徊。造成一些伤害，并且让敌人追击你。（很多人都愿意采用“Q”＋进攻模式的方式，那样的话，你将得到很大的优势）。在你进攻敌人的矿车和部队的同时，你还想保存你的诱饵部队的存活。

For a successful Flame tank rush, you will have the most luck if you are making a push on the front lines as well as pursuing with the Flame Tanks.

为了进行成功的火焰坦克快攻，如果你在一线采取这种诱敌方式，而让你的火焰坦克紧随其后追击的话，你将有更大的胜算。

Useful combinations for Distractions
有效的扰敌组合

Scorpions+Scorpions (They have the speed)

蝎子＋蝎子（因为它们的速度）

Seekers + Seekers (Same)

探索者＋探索者（理由同上）

Pitbulls + Predators/Apc/Rocket infantry/Snipers – Pitbulls kill of things while the other army keeps him busy (Flanking example)

斗犬＋掠夺者/APC/火箭兵/狙击手 －－ 斗犬杀死敌人的同时，其他部队牵制住敌人（比如侧翼）

Engineer/APC + Predators/Apc/Rocket infantry/Snipers - Need I say more? Capturing stuff

工程师/APC ＋ 掠夺者/APC/火箭兵/狙击手－－需要多说么。。占领啊

Scorpions + Flame tanks (Scorpions attract enemy fire; Flame Tanks blow up the base from the other side)

蝎子＋火焰坦克（蝎子吸引敌人火力）火焰坦克从另一边干掉他的基地

Scorpions + Stealth Tanks

蝎子＋隐形坦克

[ 本帖最后由 hfmouse 于 2007-12-16 18:42 编辑 ]

Gellan

呵呵,本周更新!支持!有没有人把命令与征服正史后半部分翻译一下,想看看后面的内容.:)

hfmouse

原帖由 Gellan 于 2007-12-9 21:46 发表
呵呵,本周更新!支持!有没有人把命令与征服正史后半部分翻译一下,想看看后面的内容.:)

哈，谢兄弟支持~~


给我连接下，有空的话，我试试看

Gellan

被翻译的部分：http://gamesir.net/display.php?id=1529

原文地址：http://planetcnc.gamespy.com/Vie ... dia.Detail&id=2

征服者翻译了一部分就停止翻译了， 楼主！

hfmouse

肉盾

英文作者：B00M

（译者：汗。。。中外对这个称呼竟然是一致的！怀疑作者是不是外国人，是不是抄袭了我们的叫法。。。）

Let’s face it, who of the online players actually clicks each unit separately or makes patrol routes to shoot tanks in a certain order; most people just attack-move a lot and hope they shoot the right things. Meatshields can be useful against this sort of micro as well as good at protecting high-damage units with low armor.


让我们面对事实吧，在线玩家有谁真的是单独点选每个单位，然后单独为它们设置路径让它们按次序去攻击敌军坦克的呢，大多数人只是用攻击移动模式，然后侥幸的希望所有的单位可以去打正确的目标罢了。对付这种微操，肉盾是一个非常有效的办法。同时肉盾还可以有效的保护防御差的高伤害单位。


What is a Meatshield?

什么是肉盾？

It’s a unit that takes damage but has actually very few other uses than taking damages; luckily enough, in CnC 3, most of these have some sort of use at least. Here's an example, feel free to modify it for other armies.

简单来说，肉盾就是可以承受伤害，而除了承受伤害以外基本没有其他用处的单位（译者：好贴切啊。。。）幸运的是，在CnC3里，这些肉盾多多少少还是有些用处的。这里给个例子，当然也可以用别的单位来说明。

The predator and riflemen; predators are high damage dealing tanks to other tanks/buildings, however, if you send just a group of predators, they’ll be kicked rather easily, mixing and meatshields come in handy here, imagine having tons of riflemen between the preds attracting opposing scorpion/seeker/predator shots, truly absorbing the damage the predator is supposed to be getting. All the while, if you included rocketmen as well, they will get their shots off and may even absorb more opponent shells. Lovely isn’t it?

掠夺者和机枪兵；掠夺者是对付其他坦克/建筑的高伤害单位，但是，如果你仅仅派出一队掠夺者坦克，它们很容易被敌人歼灭，和肉盾混合编队，要好的多。试想一下，成群的机枪兵混杂在掠夺者之间一起冲锋，他们吸引敌方蝎子/探索者/掠夺者的火力，有效的承受了本来应该掠夺者承受的伤害。如果你也混杂一些火箭兵的话，那么除去吸引火力外，他们的攻击还可以削弱敌人的装甲，很棒，不是么？



Meatshields and damage inflicting units

肉盾和伤害（主攻）单位


The perfect example of this is the avatar and scorps; what you want to do is:

关于这个的完美例子是圣灵和蝎子，你要做的就是：

• Make sure the damage units get off their damage
• Make sure the damage units don’t get hit but the meatshields do

• 确保伤害（主攻）单位对敌人造成伤害
• 确保肉盾被打，而伤害（主攻）单位不要被敌人打到

Hence you send the avatars in front and let them absorb all damage and let the other units kill of the opposing forces, this is also done with Desintegrators/tripods; just send the disints in front.

因此你应该把圣灵放在前面，让它们承受所有伤害，让其他单位干掉敌军，同样可以用于粉碎者/三脚，只要把粉碎者放在前面就行了。

Another great example is Rocket Militia and Rifle militia for Nod.

另一个好例子是Nod的火箭兵和机枪兵。


Mixing

混编

Such an important thing in this type of game; you want your force to be mobile and cover everything, it helps a ton, e.g Predators/Snipers/Rocket infantry – You now got a army that covers Air attacks ( Rocket men) , tank attacks ( Predators/Rocket infantry) / infantry (snipers). Other ways of mixing which are very effective too are:

这是在游戏中一个很重要的部分，你希望你的部队可以全面的应对一切，混编可以帮上大忙。比如，掠夺者/狙击手/火箭兵 —— 现在你拥有一支可以应对空军（火箭兵），坦克（掠夺者/火箭兵）/步兵（狙击手）的部队了。其他的混编也是非常有效的：

• Nods infantry spam – Rockets counter anything not infantry based and the Rifle militia counter that too
• Scrins combo with Devestators and Tripods, basicly they got build up a strong anti infantry with the devestators and a strong anti-tank force with the tripods.

• Nod步兵海 —— 火箭兵对抗除了步兵以外的东西，而机枪兵对付步兵
• Scrin 剥夺者和三脚的组合，基本上这样的组合是剥夺者反步兵步兵，三脚反坦克

lin107zero

图片貌似都不大,直接贴过来吧,国外的网站的图片速度比较慢

hfmouse

ok。。。我弄弄看~~


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冷袖清风

好东西,,,,,,,,,更新了
辛苦
HF鼠  兄了..................

hfmouse

清风兄弟，客气了~~~


期待那些mod啊~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Gellan

呵呵，这周又有更新了，支持hfmouse

hfmouse

：）

谢兄弟支持。。。看了正史的那个。。。难度大诶。。

技术性的翻译还好，文学性的，恐怕能力有限。。。

Gellan

嗯,那就期待你每周的技术文章更新了.:)

hfmouse

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地图意识

What is Map Awareness?

什么是地图意识？

Put simply, map awareness is knowing the map layout; its choke points, attack angles, and specific intricacies, and keeping these in mind as you play.

简单来说，地图意识就是要知道地图的布局，了解它的咽喉要道，攻击角度，以及它不同于其他地图的复杂特征，在对战的时候，要时刻谨记。

However, it tends to encompass more than just that, and is more like multitasking; keeping on top of the standard tasks of building construction, etc, while keeping an eye on your enemy's actions as well.

不过，地图意识的内涵不仅仅是这些，它更像多任务处理；在你进行基本任务（比如建造建筑等）的同时也关注敌人的行动。

More often than not, it relies heavily on adequate scouting; necessary because of the need to know what is going on most important areas of the map, and tends to mean knowing what your opponent is generally going to be doing at most points in the game and being prepared to counter them, and any potential threats you will face.

大多数情况下，良好的地图意识依赖于大量的侦察工作，这是非常必要的，因为你需要知道地图上那些兵家必争之地的现况。同时，良好的地图意识意味着在游戏过程中你要大致知道你的对手将要做什么，并根据情况做好迎战敌人和任何你将面对的潜在威胁的准备。

Why is it important?

它为什么重要？

Simple. While invaluable, you can't always rely on the spacebar and EVA announcements to tide you through every single assault you're going to face in a match, though; if you're already being attacked and an Engineer is sent into your Construction Yard, you won't know until it's too late.

很简单。地图意识是无价的。你不能总是依赖空格和EVA的提示来帮助你应对比赛中的每一次攻击。试想如果你正在被敌人攻击，一个敌方的工程师正向着你的主基地跑来，而你知道的是时候为时已晚。

If a scouting mission reveals an early game Predator spam, then you can prepare Fanatics or Disintegrators and make his attack unsuccessful and costly. Overall, the benefit is that it will make your army more efficient and increase the likelihood of your units getting promoted, and as everyone knows, promoted units are so much more useful than regular ones.

如果你的侦察部队发现了早期的掠夺者海，那么你可以准备些狂徒或者粉碎者，从而让敌人偷鸡不成蚀把米。总之，地图意识的好处是它可以让你的部队更加有效率并且增大了你的部队得到升级的可能性，众所周知，升级的单位要比不同单位有用得多。

Another good reason is that it really helps with improving your micro; a quick sweep of your base can reveal damaged buildings & units that could require repair or additional defense, or show idle Harvesters or other such issues that could be sorted out, and maybe show you those Flame Tanks that otherwise would have surprised you.

另一个好理由是，良好的地图意识可以切实地帮助你改进微操：快速的扫过你的基地，可以暴露受伤的部队和建筑，他们需要被修理或者加强防御；具有良好的地图意识可以及时知道空闲的矿车或者类似可以列出来的信息，它还可以让你早些发现喷火坦克，避免被他们偷袭。

Map awareness is also hugely effective in helping you know where to position your forces, and this can be useful as you will know where to place defenses and extra units to counter any incoming assaults.

地图意识在你部署兵力时效果更是显著。具有良好的地图意识，你就知道在哪里放置防御和额外的兵力可以有效的对抗敌人的进攻。

It should follow that good map awareness also has a knock-on effect on macro for the simple reason that you will be more able to plan better attacks, because you will be more able to attack his weak spots and capitalise on his mistakes; at times, this can mean the difference between a win and a loss.

不得不说的是，好的地图意识在宏观上也是有很大效果的，原因很简单，它将使你能够谋划更成功的进攻，因为你将更了解他的弱点，并把他的错误转化成你胜利的资本。有时，这将决定胜负。

Distractions will also be less likely to succeed with heightened map awareness; if you are playing against Nod, for example, you can be on the lookout for stealthed assaults and keep on guard with plenty of stealth detection, and save yourself a lot of hassle in the process.

如果提高了地图意识，敌人声东击西的战术就会不那么有效。举个例子来说，如果你对抗Nod，你会时刻警惕隐形攻击，你会布置大量的探隐守卫，这将使你在骚扰过程中大受裨益。

How do I get it?

怎么得到它？

• Hit spacebar whenever you hear an announcement
• Constantly right-click scroll
• Hotkey your main attack group (at the very least)

• 养成不论何时只要你听到报告就按空格的习惯
• 经常使用右键滚屏
• 用热键操作你的主攻部队（至少是这样）

It takes time, but starts with a few simple steps and will become more like second nature the more you practice. One of the first things to do would be to check your minimap constantly, and pay attention to your EVA announcements. Also hit spacebar whenever you see the minimap icon flash or hear the EVA announcement; it will save you lots of time in finding out which enemy unit is where.

这花费时间，但是从一些简单的步骤入手，熟能生巧。第一件要做的事情应该是经常检查小地图，并且关注声音提示。当你听到声音提示或者看到小地图上有图标闪烁的时候，不要犹豫，记得按空格；这将节约你大量的寻找敌人的时间。

Constantly move around your base + the enemy base, just to check what is going on; this will greatly improve your general awareness and make it that much more difficult for your opponent to surprise you.

经常的环顾你的基地和敌人的基地，仅仅是查看有什么变化，这将很大程度上改进你的整体意识，并使得敌人更难偷袭你。

It is a good idea to use bookmarks; set them up as soon as possible at key locations and use them as much as possible. With this, the use of hotkeys is essential; it will save you huge amounts of time if you are able to do this consistently, and also help you get buildings up faster; both will be considerable advantages if you're facing an opponent who isn't using them.

使用标签是个好主意；尽可能快的在关键地点设置标签，尽可能多的使用它们。借助它们，热键的使用是必须的。如果你可以一贯这样做，它将节约你大量的时间，并且可以帮助你更快的发展，两者都是你对抗敌人的巨大优势。（如果你的对手不会用标签的话）

Watch the replays of some of the top players several times through their points of view. Watch how they scout, and watch what counters they make at which points in the match, and try to adapt and implement that into your play. In addition, watching your own replays and looking at where to improve would also be a great idea.

多以高手的视角来看看他们的录像，看看他们是怎么进行侦察的，看看他们在什么地点用什么抵抗，试着接受并把这些融入到你的操作中。此外，多看看你自己的录像，看看哪里需要改进也是个好主意。

Finally, practice. Practice, practice, practice, and don't give up. This can't be emphasized enough. You can only get better by playing, especially against higher-ranked players, and learn from both your wins and your losses.

最后，练习。练习，练习，练习，永远不要放弃。怎么强调都不为过。你只可能通过对战变得更强，特别是与高手对战。

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