无冬1越玩越觉得2代搓

秋日枫叶

等两年后的博得3...而且消息还不是很可靠...唉

zhuangdiablo

原帖由 秋日枫叶 于 2010-1-15 15:24 发表
等两年后的博得3...而且消息还不是很可靠...唉

听谁说的？？？
希望尽量快点出，和菠萝3一起出的话，竞争力不足啊，一定要赶在菠萝3前面出！！！

xxxedwin

2代有我最喜欢的qara和bishop

zhuangdiablo

哈哈…我看到艾德温了…　　　
【艾德温做这个，艾德温做那个，谁来给我的猴子拿根香蕉？】
【依尔明斯特这个，依尔明斯特那个，给我两千年时间和一顶尖帽子，我一定比他强！】

bdaabc

12345就是个杯具了的BUILD，就像本科生选半天专业才选对了一样。。。
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NWN2的剧情除了面具我还真是看不出什么特别出彩的地方，算神论么

zhuangdiablo

原帖由 bdaabc 于 2010-1-16 09:55 发表
12345就是个杯具了的BUILD，就像本科生选半天专业才选对了一样。。。
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NWN2的剧情除了面具我还真是看不出什么特别出彩的地方，算神论么 ...

还有build也很出彩…　　　　　
剧情方面，能有几个大型支线就好了　　　　　　　

Smokemage

当然算，不过既然是版主说的，我还不是只有听着。

如果有空你可以看看国外测评网站上对NWN2原版的评价——尤其是剧情部分。

redmouth

上面诸位说的大多是报怨,少些是希望,不过凭心而论nwn1和nwn2都是经典的作品,当然这里要除去那个泽西尔风暴那个资料片,如果要说真正的缩水,nwn2就败在这个资料片了,前面的作品都是有亮点的.我现在不知道继西门以后还能出什么,但如果再像泽西尔风暴那种模式的nwn2我是不会再玩的了.

bdaabc

贴个链接吧，我又不会像某些没职业道德的BZ那样看到不同意见就删。。。
确实因为NWN玩得早有先入为主的观念也说不定，我一直感觉NWN2和NWN比输在支线上了。。。

[ 本帖最后由 bdaabc 于 2010-1-16 23:07 编辑 ]

Smokemage

现在离无冬2原版上市时间已经过了很久了，这方面的东西不太好找，过几天给你吧。

emdlkjhgfdsa

二代比较漂亮和明亮，这是优点吧，一代总有点灰暗的感觉

zhuangdiablo

的确，二代的画面除了优化差劲了一点…
没啥别的问题了…

zhuangdiablo

的确，二代的画面除了优化差劲了一点…
没啥别的问题了…

xxxedwin

我决定包养一儿明丝特，每月2000                         。

zhuangdiablo

无冬区惊现【艾德温娜】…　　　　　　　　　　　　　

Smokemage

原帖由 bdaabc 于 2010-1-16 23:04 发表
贴个链接吧，我又不会像某些没职业道德的BZ那样看到不同意见就删。。。
确实因为NWN玩得早有先入为主的观念也说不定，我一直感觉NWN2和NWN比输在支线上了。。。 ...

贴几个NWN2原版的总评吧（全部的评论给出链接）：

IGN：
6.5         Presentation
Good story and interesting character interactions are brought down by occasional bugs and a particularly annoying inventory system.
6.5         Graphics
For the most part, this game isn't much to look at. Some interesting armor and monster designs and attractive spells effects help keep this score from dropping too low.
8.5         Sound
Generally strong voice acting and a stellar soundtrack. Character acknowledgements can get aggravating, as can some of the ambient noises.
8.5         Gameplay
An entertaining conversation system combined with tactical dungeon crawling will keep you clicking away at your keyboard. Low difficulty level and confined maps occasionally muck things up.
10         Lasting Appeal
With support for play online and the inclusion of an updated toolset to create your own campaign means this is one of the most lasting experiences out there.

http://pc.ign.com/articles/744/744019p2.html

GameSpot：

The Good

    * Compelling story will keep you hooked for the entire 50-plus hours it takes to finish the single-player campaign  
    * Full-featured toolset lets you easily create and share new modules  
    * This is just about the most authentic representation of Dungeons & Dragons you'll find in any game  
    * Excellent music and mostly well-done voice acting  
    * The interactive dialogue and influence system make for dynamic and entertaining character interactions.

The Bad

    * Frustrating camera requires constant attention  
    * Steep system requirements for a game that doesn't look particularly good  
    * The artificial intelligence doesn't always cooperate.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/neverwinternights2/review.html

GameSpy：

Pros:
Exhaustive character options; well-written, engrossing story; sprawling original campaign.

Cons:
Some significant technical issues; performance isn't quite up to par.

http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/neverwinter-nights-ii/744657p1.html

在Gamespot关于NWN2的Q@A上专门提到了“Neverwinter Nights 2 has a new graphics engine and a deeper story.”（这个说法肯定是相比NWN1）

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/n ... 1&mode=previews

Smokemage

再看这里：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverwinter_Nights_2

节选一段：
The storyline was widely considered one of the game's strong points and an improvement over Neverwinter Nights.[2][18] GameSpy stated that the single–player campaign was "worthy of its exhaustive pedigree",[7] and Game Informer's reviewer said "This title easily trumps the original NWN’s campaign with a vastly superior story and characters".[22] Another reviewer declared it "one of the best written games in history".[11] Other reviewers were less convinced,[74] with Australia's PALGN referring to the story as "rather predictable and clichéd".[5]

而维基上对于NWN1的评论则是这样：
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neverwinter_Nights

节选一段说明他们对NWN1的优点和缺点的说明：
In general, Neverwinter Nights met with positive reviews, receiving "universal acclaim" according to Metacritic.[13] GameSpot referred to it as "one of those exceedingly rare games that has a lot to offer virtually everyone, even if they aren't already into RPGs", and praised it for its campaign, its Aurora toolset, and its graphics.[16] Allgame found that the game's story was "humdrum" and "mediocre".[14]

GamePro noted the game's graphics as being "gorgeous" and its sound as "untouchable",[15] and GameZone likewise praised its visuals, specifically mentioning its combat animation and spell effects as being well-done.[18] GameSpy wasn't as impressed by the graphics, saying "The biggest, and arguably the only, glaring flaw in the game, is its graphics. You can tell that this game has been in development for five years[...]"; however, they praised its voice acting and music.[17]

这差别之大，我想已经不用我再多说了吧。

PS：补充一点，NWN2还获得了GameSpot的2006年最佳故事奖。wiki里提到"It received GameSpot's "Best Story" award for 2006."

[ 本帖最后由 Smokemage 于 2010-1-17 23:34 编辑 ]

kdashworld

非常同意 8.5         Sound的打分~~~~~~~~~~~一直觉得原版里 配音太专业了，电影也不过如此。

zhuangdiablo

开来smoke 大哥对关于2代剧情的事情怨念很大…嘿嘿…　　

bdaabc

rather predictable and clichéd不是什么好评吧。。。
我还是希望看看有没有具体分析，貌似为了避免剧透都没有，看来还是文化差异最后导致看法不同了，欧美那边更注重role-play，是把故事放在游戏里看和玩家的互动程度的，我们这些玩RPG像看小说一样的人是把故事单独拿出来比较的。。。
GS评价一直很诡异，评价NWN的时候挑了一堆刺，评价NWN2的时候说缺点的篇幅少多了，最后一给分NWN还高0.5。。。