扩张指导
英文作者:B00M
Using an expand vehicle or moving the MCV?
用扩张车还是移动主基地车?
In 1.09 it is more advisable to move mcv than to use the vehicle , of course there are exceptions ( like the most played map TA) in my opinion at least.
在1.09补丁里,更推荐移动主基地车的方式来扩张。当然我认为至少也有一些例外(比如地图TA)
This will be a never-ending dilemma: I can't state for a fact which one is best, but I can tell you a bit on each option:
这是个无休止的争议话题:我不能说哪一个最好,但是我可以分别说说二者的异同。
Using the expand vehicle
使用扩张车
+ Faster
+ No build-delay (As in while you move mcv you can't build buildings)
- More risk involved earlygame
- Earlygame cost of 1500
优点:
速度快
没有建造延迟(当你移动主基地车的时候,不能建造东西)
缺点:
在早期游戏中冒更大的危险
需要在初期花费1500
My personal preference goes out to using these, I have an easier time recovering from a dead expo and then possibly moving mcv, than relying on moving mcv right away. Even though in some cases its not wise to go for one ( like if you are 100% sure he will use Shadow teams on you and you are GDI)
我个人偏爱使用它,相比单纯依赖移动主基地车,使用扩张车可以让你比较容易的应对不利的局面,然后再考虑移动你的主基地。当然在一些情况下使用扩张车并不明智(比如,如果你100%确定你的对手会使用影子快攻,而你的阵营是CDI的时候。。。)
Moving the MCV and neglecting the vehicle
移动主基地车不用扩张车
+ No loss of 1500 early-game
+ Safer
- Slower
- Kills your build-que for a bit
优点:
在游戏初期节省1500
更加安全
缺点:
速度慢
暂时不能建造
The -'s here are rather situational as you will often be spending most of your cash right away so you dont really need the build queue eg. on STusa when you PP/RAX/REF/WF(Buggy-2harvs first)/REF/WF and then spam Scorps from the WF's as Nod, you'll be spending all the cash you earn from those spikes & refs on the 2 WF. On other maps like TA, it can hurt you quite a bit though, but its definitely worth it if you lost your original expo as having blue on this map matters a lot.
这里所说的缺点是具体情况具体分析的,如果你经常是立刻把所有的资金都花费掉,那么你不是真的需要建造序列的,比如在美国小镇地图上,如果你是Nod并采用电厂/RAX/矿厂/兵工(四驱车+2矿车)/矿厂/兵工厂开局,然后暴蝎子的话,你将把从矿柱和矿厂里得到的资金全部投入到两个兵工厂里。在其他的地图比如TA,暂时不能建造会很大程度的伤害你,但是失去你原始的基地是绝对值得的,因为那张地图的蓝矿决定胜败。
Hunting the opponents expanding vehicle
狩猎对手的扩张车
Why would you want to hunt your opponents expanding vehicle? It's for pretty obvious reasons actually, on most of the maps where you will use one at the start ( e.g TA ), it will be to gain an economic advantage over your opponent by accessing blue tib. Chances will be a lot higher off winning if you can stop your opponent from doing so.
为什么你想要狩猎对手的扩张车?原因显而易见,在许多地图上你会在开始时使用一个(比如TA),通过获取蓝矿来在经济上取得超过敌人的优势。如果你可以通过消灭对手的扩张车来制止对手的话,你将会得到更大的取胜机会。
Now theres 3 main ways to hunt it, one for each army.
这里有三个主要的狩猎方式,分别对应不同的阵营。
GDI: GDI
- Going for early Engi/apcs are your best ( and only ) bet to stop the opponent from expanding, try unloading/loading the engineer if he has already deployed it and has refs there ( which will be the case on most occasions). Try to make him sell his buildings there.
采用早期工程师+运兵车是最好(独有)的方式去阻止敌人扩张,试着卸载/装载工程师,如果对方已经展来了前哨并且放置了矿厂(大多数情况)。试着迫使他卖掉那里的建筑。
- Orcas, 1 orcas can 1 shot a Outpost, 2 Orcas can one shot a Heavily guarded outpost and both orcas might be able to get away scot free depends on micro level (as long they don't have around 10+ Rocket troops stationed around it)
奥卡,1个奥卡可以1次消灭掉一个前哨站,2个奥卡可以一次消灭掉一个有重兵保护的前哨,两个奥卡可能都可以全身而退,不过这要看玩家的微操水平(只要它们没有遇到10+的火箭兵驻扎在周围)
- Orca strike - 1 orca strike can 1 shot a outpost as well, it's quite useful in small maps since the person have plenty of time
奥卡袭击,1次奥卡袭击也可以干掉前哨站,在小地图这非常有用,因为人们有大量的时间。
Nod: Nod
-The classic Shadow team rush, 2 are needed for an expo. ( Note: if you build one of the two you will arrive too late on TA)
经典的影子小队快攻,一次爆破需要2组(注意:如果你先造一组,那么你将会晚到一步,对TA来说)
- Fast WF BO + 3 bikes
快速出重工战术 + 3摩托车
Scrin: The desint-rush covered with 3/4/5buzzers.
Scrin:粉碎者快攻带上3/4/5蜂群。
Protecting your expanding vehicle
保护你的扩张车
Now you might be wondering after reading the 2nd page what you should do then in order to save your expanding vehicle from a swift death? Read the next paragraphs then !!
读了上一部分,现在你也许想知道你应该做些什么来保护你的扩张车避免速死。。那么看看这一段吧。
Versus the GDI Engi apc
对抗GDI工程师/运兵车
This should be the easiest one to deal with as you can get out light tanks at the same time he gets his APC's. Using a fast Warfbuild will secure this, another option is relying on inf towers, this is not recommended though as only Scrins T1 buzzer hive is "reliable ( to a certain extent)" doing this.
这是最容易对付的一个,在敌人攻来的同时你已经可以出轻型坦克来对付这些运兵车了。采用速出重工战术的话更好,另一个选择是依靠反步兵塔,这不推荐因为,只有Scrin的一级防御——蜂巢是可信的(在一定范围内)。
Versus the Shadowteam rush
对抗影队快攻
Shadowteam rushes can be detected by a riflemensquad or a scouting buzzer, you can tell from 2 things when you scout if he went ST's or not:
影队快攻可以通过步兵小队或者侦察蜂群探测到,在侦查时你可以通过两个方式得知是否对手采用了影队快攻。
- You can either get lucky and run into one so you get the stealth unit detected message
如果你够幸运正好碰到一队,你会收到探测到隐形部队的消息。
- You can tell from the buildings he has.
你可以从敌人的建筑里得知
After you know he went for them, do NOT instantly deploy the vehicle but wait a bit and try to clear the ST's first.
在你知道对方派出影子小队孩子后,不要立刻展开车辆,稍等一下,先清除了影子小队再说。
Another option when you assume he will ST you is to deploy the vehicle far enough so you can get a it up before the ST's arrive.
当你假定他会采用影队快攻对付你时的另一个选择,是在足够远的地方展开车辆,以保证你可以在影队到达前可以完成展开。
Special Scrin counter
Scrin的特别抵抗方式
Circling buzzers around the expanding vehicle will protect you from ST's usually
让你的蜂群围着扩张车站成一圈通常可以保护你的建筑免受影队的袭击。

Versus the Desintrush
对抗粉碎者快攻
This one can be rather annoying since its a guess , wether he goes for your spike ( in which case you would need to defend there) or for your expanding vehicle. Either way, if you decide to protect the expanding vehicle, you will need 2/3 riflemen squads as GDI/Nod and make sure they are split up a bit so they don't get killed too fast by buzzers. As Scrin, I would advice you to try and get the desint down.
这个是很烦人的,因为你需要猜他是想攻打你的矿柱(这种情况的话你需要防御矿柱)还是你的扩张车。不论哪种情况,如果你决定保护扩张车,你需要2/3队步兵小队(对应GDI/Nod)并确保它们分开站位,以避免被封群秒杀。对Scrin来说,我建议你试着干掉粉碎者。
Expanding in the lategame
游戏后期的扩张
This can be good and used to be done loads in 1.08. If you move a expand vehicle with your attack forces and then deploy it so you can pop up those annoying Sonic emitters/obelisks/Storm columns. Of course on most maps you can also crawl, but crawling with refs lategame (GDI's best crawl structure) is pretty dumb and then this will be more helpful, it can be rather good for both GDI and Nod, Scrin would probably be better of using Stasis chambers and selling them as they proceed.
这可以是很好的,在1.08里很常见。如果你让你的扩张车混着主攻部队一起走,然后出其不意的展开它,你可以放置那些恼人的音波塔/光明石碑/风暴柱。当然在大多数地图上,你可以慢慢推进,但是在游戏后期用矿厂推进(GDI的最佳推进建筑)是非常无力的,这时扩张车将会非常有帮助,它对GDI和Nod来说都相当好用,Scrin可能用静力室更好一些,在用它们推进后记得卖掉。
You could also use an extra MCV for this which gives even a larger radius but needs to be looked after!
你也可以用另一辆基地车做这些,这样你会得到更大的半径,但是需要更多的照管。
Airlifting the expand vehicle and deploying it somewhere
空运扩张车并在其他地方展开
In addition to chapter 4 there's the possiblity to airlift it and drop it off somewhere at his base and hoping he doesn't spot it before it is deployed and you can either cap some buildings or pop up some T3 defenses
在第四部分所述之外,这里说的是空运扩张车,并把它放在敌人的基地附近,希望对手在你展开完成前没有发现它,然后你可以造些建筑或者放置一些三级防御。

Moving the expanding vehicle the fastest way possible
尽可能用最快的方式调动你的扩张车
99% of the people do not utilize the fastest way to expand, mainly because it isnt always needed, but with some bo's it is, and can save you from wasting time and/or ST's. So the next drawings should show how to expand the fastest.
99%的人没有用最快的方式去扩张,主要因为这不总是必要的,但是在一些建造序列里,这样做可以节省你浪费的时间,并从影队快攻中拯救你。因此下一部分我们告诉你如何最快的扩张。
For Nod only:
仅对Nod来说:
Watch this replay demonstrating the fastest way to expand and how the first expanding vehicle gets to the white line at 39.84 sec. (production time included so 25 pure)
这段录像说明了最快扩张的方式,以及第一辆扩张车如何在39.84秒到达白线。(包括建造时间,净时间25秒)
While the 2nd one gets there at 41.85 (production time included so 27 sec pure, 2 seconds might matter at pro level)
同时第二辆到达白线花费41.85秒(包括建造时间,净时间27秒,2秒在高手对战时可能会决定胜败)
Some explanation:
一些说明:
The black dots are the clicks required right after the expand vehicle comes out
黑点是在扩张车出来后立刻需要点击的
The waypoint is to make it start in the right way
路标使它在正确的路上。

Using planning to make it deploy
采用计划模式来展开
This is a little thing, which can make your life alot easier and doesn't leave you with moments where you forgot to deploy the expanding vehicle.
这个小东西,可以让你的操作简单些,而且可以避免你忘记展开扩张车的情况发生。
This is done in 5 steps
1) Select the expand vehicle
2) Start the planning mode
3) Select a location
4) Press the deploy button
5) End the planning mode
由以下五步组成:
1)选中扩张车
2)开启计划模式
3)选择地点
4)点击展开按钮
5)结束计划模式

Tricks with the expand vehicle
扩张车使用小技巧
ST-USA
美国小镇
It is possible to hide behind some buildings so it becomes completely invisible
可以把它藏在建筑后面,让他对敌人完全不可见。
Example: Expanding down right
例子:右下扩张

Barstow badlands
Barstow荒地
You got 2 tricks on this map actually:
这张地图有两个技巧:
-Building off the cliff : this is done by deploying the expand vehicle the spot as shown on the following screenie
建下悬崖:让你的扩张车在下图所示的地方展开。
-Hiding : It is possible to hide behind the water tower so it becomes invisible without turning camera angle
隐藏:可以藏在水塔后面,这样不转变视角,它就是不可见的。

[ 本帖最后由 hfmouse 于 2008-2-11 04:58 编辑 ] |