《暗黑破坏神3》将以金币为主流货币!

samkyos

　在交易方面玩家一直关心的是究竟将来会以物品为货币还是金币，从这次的蓝贴来看，暴雪有意使金币成为最终的交易标准。就象现在的WOW一样，同时另个蓝贴提出了物品的绑定机制，可能也是为了配合这个意图。

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译文：
Diablo3 fans：
只要玩家有大量钱币掉落的能力，钱币就不会值钱。
Bashiok：
只要我们有大量增加玩家买装备所需金钱的能力，钱币就会值钱。
Diablo3 fans：
以钱币为主的体系会让新玩家难有立足之地，这让他们觉得有戏索然无味....所以这个讨论显然没什么意思。
Bashiok：
我想知道他们到底是怎么说的，可否给我一个链接？我的猜测是，他们指的是让一个新手像最有钱的玩家一样，只花一部分钱就可以把商店买个遍。但我认为你好像有点添油加醋。无论如何，希望并感谢您能提供任何进一步的信息。
钱币系统是最公平的，也是最容易让新手理解的??相比于物品交换维持的经济。所以我认为你曲解了别人的意思。
Diablo3 fans：
不同职业武器系统之间的交易，也使得钱不值钱。
Bashiok：
首先大家不要忘记钱币是D2的制定流通货币。暗黑的游戏风格并不决定于是否需要钱币，或者物品交易才是王道等等事项。因为这是暗黑，人们不喜欢钱币……
物品之间的交换，是D2被人所熟知的，但结果并不代表目的。
让我们假设设想一下。D3发布后，钱币变得有意义。游戏的系统或是外观或者什么需要购买，而你又想要，并且钱币是你得到它所需的最重要的东西??请勿在意细节??你为了自己想要的东西而想要更多的钱币……OK！
所以你去刷怪，有好动虚掉落，但却并不是你需要的。你可以按下ALT捡起来，而且你知道它很值钱，所以...
你可以直接找人交换你想要的东西。
你也可以直接拍卖后得到金钱，再用钱币买进你想要的东西。
Diablo3 fans：
如果你没在一个大服务器上玩过，那么你就不知道钱币经济是怎么回事，更不清楚金钱积累过程让多少新手望而却步。
Bashiok：
当你有了最好的装备，打败了最强的Boss，你才能玩全部的游戏，你才知道有拍卖行的存在。因此，我不同意你的观点。
以金币为基础的经济以及拍卖行不会让D3有任何改变。
Diablo3 fans：
钱币经济是人们离开魔兽世界的主要原因。
Bashiok：
这就是荒谬的。

原文：


Quote:
Diablo3 fans：
Gold will continue to be worthless as long as players have an option to drastically increase the size of gold drops.
Bashiok：
Gold will continue to be valuable as long as we have the option to drastically increase the amount needed to buy a desired item/feature.
Diablo3 fans：
and the issue of gold and ah beind problems were adressed at blizzcon this year...
and how it makes games very uninviting for new players to be able to get foothold in a gold driven economy....debunk or stfu no flames needed on this topic btw......
Bashiok：
I'd like to know more about what they said if you have a link. My guess is they were referring to a new player being able to compete in a market (auction house) that's run by a small percentage of the wealthiest players, or those that use mods to corner the markets. But I don't think it's as cut and dry as that even. Anyway, any additional info on what was said would be appreciated.
A gold based economy is infinitely more approachable and easy for new players to get into and understand than an item drive economy. So I think you're putting your own spin on what they actually said or meant.
Diablo3 fans：
other wise gold will be worthless cause item 4 item trades is what u do with stuff that is not boe or bop in a game liek DIABLO.
Bashiok：
First and foremost I think it's a mistake to forget that gold was an intended currency in Diablo II. The Diablo game style isn't based on the idea that gold needs or has to be worthless and item for item trades are the only thing that work and any attempts to do otherwise will fail because it's Diablo and people don't like gold and...
Item for item trades are certainly a part of what people know from Diablo II but remembering the result doesn't mean it matches the intent.
Let's make a hypothetical.Diablo III is out and gold is worth something. There are systems or features or something within the game that you want to buy or invest in and it costs gold or gold is a large component of the cost to get it. Regardless of the specifics, you want MORE gold so you can buy some of this stuff you want. Ok.
So then you're playing and you kill something and a sweet item drops, but you don't want it. Or better yet, you could keep it for an alt but you know it's worth something, so...
You can go find someone and trade it for another item
You can go sell it on a theoretical auction system getting gold for it, which (being worth something) can then be spent on the system/feature whatever it is you want gold for/or you can turn right around and buy an item you want from the theoretical auction system using the gold you just got
Diablo3 fans：
and also if you have not played wow on a full server statin fresh you have no idea how gold screw up an economy and make new players not even wanna play.
Bashiok：
You could play the entire game (WoW) until you have all the best gear and have beaten the highest level and hardest bosses and never even know that the auction house exists. So I disagree completely.
There's no reason Diablo III would be any different were it to include an auction house system and gold based economy.
Diablo3 fans：
biggest reason people quit wow
gold run economy
Bashiok：
That's just nonsensical.

arpeggi

是的 暴雪所有的游戏都在山口山化 202020220

流淌的风华

暴雪的人加入山口组了？

Tassadar

diablo1 和2，不一直都是金币么~~

國風

原帖由 Tassadar 于 2009-10-15 12:06 发表
diablo1 和2，不一直都是金币么~~

这个“金币”是针对战网玩家交易说的，D2战网的通用货币都是乔当、高级符文、7%MF小护身符等，因为游戏中的金币不值钱，地狱难度随便捡件黄甲就可以在NPC那里卖到一大笔。

momo_t

玻璃渣是彻底想钱想疯了，他在天朝不会有好果子吃的

雪代缘

Diablo3 fans：
如果你没在一个大服务器上玩过，那么你就不知道钱币经济是怎么回事，更不清楚金钱积累过程让多少新手望而却步。
Bashiok：
当你有了最好的装备，打败了最强的Boss，你才能玩全部的游戏，你才知道有拍卖行的存在。因此，我不同意你的观点。
以金币为基础的经济以及拍卖行不会让D3有任何改变。
Diablo3 fans：
钱币经济是人们离开魔兽世界的主要原因。
Bashiok：
这就是荒谬的。

耐人尋味。。。

snwbig

瘋了，新手要怎麼去混啊！爲了金幣去奮鬥，結果像魔獸一樣，花了點卡錢還要花錢換金幣，不然舉步維艱啊！

airic

Bashiok：
You could play the entire game (WoW) until you have all the best gear and have beaten the highest level and hardest bosses and never even know that the auction house exists. So I disagree completely.
There's no reason Diablo III would be any different were it to include an auction house system and gold based economy.

這一段你翻譯得怪怪的.....我嘗試再翻譯一下

在WOW的遊戲裡，你可以在不知道有拍賣行的情況下，玩遍整個遊戲﹑得到最好的裝備﹑打敗最強的敵人(他的意思是不透過拍賣行買裝備，你最終還是可以完成整個遊戲)
所以他認為即使diablo3有拍賣行的系統﹑金幣的交易系統，也(像wow一樣)不會對遊戲性構成影響

panda-z

原帖由 snwbig 于 2009-10-15 18:26 发表
瘋了，新手要怎麼去混啊！爲了金幣去奮鬥，結果像魔獸一樣，花了點卡錢還要花錢換金幣，不然舉步維艱啊！

如5l所言，"D2战网的通用货币都是乔当、高级符文、7%MF小护身符等"
以上道具都是要怪掉的，而金幣除了掉之外还可以靠买卖等途徑获得
不是比d2更方便么?

heham

不要与RMB这类的搞上关系就OK了!!!

zhmwwl

战网里d2的金币也不是没有价值，一些强大的pk用戒指、项链、头环、手套、鞋子之类很大程度上要从赌博中获得。。
只是有点太廉价，相对显得上限太低了，根本不易流通。。

张小凡℡

我只想知道到底什么时候出啊
.............

cqldz2000

對新手來說 積累金幣和積累流通物品 沒有什麽區別……所以怎麼都無所謂

angelli03

就玩单机算了 如果还有局域网就玩局域网 战网不进了

romdate

呵呵，哎呀呦~~~~~管它呢~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

miqi1983

lz的翻译好奇怪 不过怪仔细的倒是真的······················