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发表于 2008-3-2 11:53:03 |只看该作者 |倒序浏览
原贴在此
http://www.gamerhome.net/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=208865
[JS] The story for Heroes V was well defined before I was brought on board, though I spent a lot of time trying to tweak it. The same goes for the Heroes V single mission maps - about all that I did there was touch up the English.
The main campaign had an interesting story line but it revolved around a few people, their personal goals, and their friends and enemies. The scope of that kind of story seems to me to be more fitting to an FPS or RPG than a strategy game where you need to conquer cities, build armies, and collect resources. Because the story was sometimes distant from what happened on the adventure and battle maps, it took lots of cutscenes to explain what was going on.
I tried to change that for Hammers of Fate by creating a story line that couldn't exist without conquering territory and having large pitched battles.
这里Jeff Spock表明他对原版剧情并不满意,如他所说,剧情发展不够紧密,做成FPS或RPG还差不多,但剧本已定,他只能做一些润色弥补。在资料片中,显然这一问题得到了很好的解决,事件动画和支线任务都相当的充分
[JS] The things that I created that I can really point a finger at are characters and dialogue rather than the world or history. I had fun making Markal an over-the-top evil moustache-twirler, turning Agrael into a frustrated and stressed leader who makes snide comments about the elves, making Zehir an impetuous genius and giving him Narxes as a sidekick, etc. By the way, for those of you who play the English version you may notice that Findan occasionally speaks to himself in haiku.
With Hammers of Fate I had more leeway. I made Freyda a tougher character than I was able to do for Isabel, plus they let me kill off Godric, create the schism between the Dwarven clans, etc.
马老头是大反派,阿格雷尔是倒霉蛋,泽西尔是才子,芬丹是诗人,以及HOF坚强的法蕾妲和挂掉的哥老头……貌似没什么可说的
好吧,下面才是重头戏
Freyda simply vanishes from the story at some point, making most of players to believe Markal actually killed her, thus her return in Hammers of Fate was a bit strange.
法蕾妲一下子从之后的故事里消失,使大多数玩家认为马卡尔把她杀了,从而她在HOF的回归有点奇怪。
[JS] True. In Heroes V Markal says: "Now I can fly straight to Hikm to chat with Godric. Perhaps I'll bring his daughter as well -- after I kill her and resurrect her as a wight. Or perhaps not. It takes time to do these things properly."
Markal was in a hurry at that point; his grand plan was coming to fruition and he was more focused on that than on his personal entertainment. Freyda was no longer useful to him as he had already neutralized Godric, and he had better things to do than involve himself in petty vengeance - he's wasn't a petty character!
对。在原版里马卡尔说:

那时候马卡尔很赶,他的伟大计划已经成熟,因而他不太在乎这些余兴节目。他已经压制住了哥德里克,法蕾妲对他已经没用了,并且他有更重要的事要做,没必要把自己卷入卑鄙的复仇-实际上他不是个卑鄙的角色!

但在此段剧情结束后确实凭空多出一个怨灵
注意,只有动物才能被驱役为怨灵,比如尼科莱被驱役为吸血鬼,护卫被驱役为僵尸
而且怨灵也不是马老头所说的Wight(死灵,难道法蕾妲是灯神orz)
结论:马老头砍了法蕾妲的马,砍完再要砍人的时候说算了,哇,千钧一发

Biara seems to manage to be everywhere at the same time. How long exactly Queen Isabel's war lasted?
拜娅拉似乎在同一时间成功的出现在每个地方。伊莎贝尔皇后之战到底持续了多久?
[JS] The history books will say that the war lasted only a year or two, though the events of Heroes V are not necessarily linear (in particular, campaigns 2 and 4 run somewhat in parallel to campaign 3). Throughout the story Biara has an important role. In fact, to a certain extent the whole history of Heroes V and its extensions revolves around complications created by Biara. Though the Demon Sovereign is the antagonist, it is Biara's peerless execution of his orders that causes most of the problems for the heroes.
历史书会表明这场战争之延续了一两年,尽管英五的事件不是线性发展的(特别是战役二、四与战役三有部分平行)。在整个故事中拜娅拉扮演着重要角色。实际上,就一定程度而言整个英五的历史及其延伸循环出现拜娅拉制造的麻烦。虽然恶魔大君才是大反派,拜娅拉出类拔萃的任务执行力才是造成英雄们大多数困难的根源。
实际上前一个问题被回避了

受争议的主要是此部分
当莎蒂娅的时候还有空玩暗杀
不过看看角色说明:由于灵魂伤痕部族间战乱不断,莎蒂娅自幼亲人全失,她是家族唯一的幸存者。幼小的心灵里早已埋下复仇的种子,为了达到目的,她刻苦修行,掌握了一切必要手段。莎蒂娅常常好几个月不见行踪,一旦现身,她的黑名单上必然有一个敌人的名字将被删除。莎蒂娅所掌握的技能包括渗透,循匿,逃脱和使诈等,这使她可以以一敌百,出若无人之境。
她肯定是向雷拉猪请产假了
总之拜姐很强大,她的详细事迹我们以后合起来说吧

It is not clear if Isabel is still pregnant or has already gave birth at the end of the game...
在游戏最后并不清楚伊莎贝尔是否生下黑暗弥赛亚
[JS] Oops - it's supposed to be clear. Isabel was kidnapped and impregnated by the Demon Sovereign, who accelerated her pregnancy and then stole the child.
噢-应该很清楚。恶魔大君将伊莎贝尔绑架并使之怀孕,加速其孕期,之后偷走了孩子。

这群单细胞生物太执着于黑暗弥塞亚的降生,连预产期这种问题都被忽略了
肉E已确认TOE伊莎猪剖腹产
本人猜测流产
算了,一样解释得通
反正就是恶魔大君当奶爸当腻了就把这倒霉孩子丢垃圾桶了
结果还因为天赋奇高给拣去准备对抗自己

After the Ritual of True Nature performed by Tieru, Agrael turns out to be a dark elf, and it is hinted it is what he was all the time, under this red armor. But if he was actually an elf, how could he be a spy in the human Griffin Empire?
在蒂耶鲁主持的本性还原仪式之后,阿格雷尔变成了一个黑暗精灵,且有暗示在那红甲之下他一直都是这样。但如果他就是个黑暗精灵,他怎么能在人类的狮鹫帝国当间谍?
[JS] Easier for a Dark Elf than for a Demon! Part of the cosmology of Ashan is that Demons, being creatures of chaos, cannot stay on the surface of the world for extended periods of time. Because of this Agrael was a perfect tool for the Demon Sovereign. Being a Dark Elf he was skilled in stealth and subterfuge, and being a mortal of Ashan the Demon Sovereign did not have to worry about complex rituals to keep him alive.
黑暗精灵比恶魔容易!亚山的世界观有一部分是恶魔作为混乱的生物不能在地表呆上很长时间。因此阿格雷尔对恶魔大君来说是个完美的工具。作为一个黑暗精灵他精于隐秘和托词,而作为亚山世界的一员,恶魔大君不必操心让他继续(在地表)的复杂仪式。

嗯,他就是一黑暗精灵
估计被恶魔大君拣来当宠物养
不要再叫他混血儿了
说起来拜姐在地表呆那么久还真不容易啊

Why does Ashan have three moons and what is their story?
为什么亚山世界有三个月亮,它们有什么故事?
[RD] One contains the slumbering Asha, who is recuperating from her battle with Urgash. At some point, she will awaken, which is going to make things very interesting. The other two? That would be telling, but I can say that the rumor that both of them are filled with dark chocolate and creamy caramel is probably not on the right track.
一个包含了睡眠中的亚莎,正在从与鄂加斯的战斗中复原。在某时她会醒来,使事情变得很有趣。另外两个?以后再说罢。不过我肯定那两个灌满了黑巧克力和焦糖布丁的谣言是错误的。
这些家伙...我已经说过那两个月亮是镜像的猜测了
不然它们连名字都没有一个实在不象话


不明白怎么又跟萨-艾朗扯上关系了
总之亚莎是个爱哭鬼

I recall Tieru says he saved Alexei's (Nicolaï's father) soul. That probably means Tieru was present when Alexei was killed in Sheogh, but how did he get away from the citadel of the Sovereign?
我想起蒂耶鲁说他救了亚历克斯(尼科莱他爸)的灵魂。那可能意味着亚历克斯在谢尔戈被杀时蒂耶鲁在场,但他是如何逃离恶魔大君的大本营的?

[JS] In fact, there were a number of armies and leaders present at the citadel when those events occurred. There was also Cyrus, king of the Wizards, who thought the attack was ridiculous and did not participate, as well as Alaron, king of the Sylvan Elves, who was too scared to join it. As a powerful druid, counsellor of the king, and authority on the demons, Tieru was certainly there to help in the war. He stayed with Alaron outside the citadel, however, and did not take part in Alexei's suicidal attack.
实际上,这一事件发生时有许多军队和领导在这个大本营。也包括自大狂法师王赛勒斯和胆小鬼精灵王阿拉伦。作为强大的德鲁伊,王家顾问,以及恶魔问题的权威人士,蒂耶鲁当然会在那协助战事。然而他在大本营外跟着阿拉伦,没有参与亚历克斯的自杀攻击。
这招太牛了,招魂+制宝
而且蒂耶鲁自己的灵魂也保存了那么久
做龙骑士浪费人才的
顶级的尸体防腐者啊

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沙发
发表于 2008-3-2 12:07:41 |只看该作者

难道英五的英雄们茶余饭后的娱乐是玩英三?


可能我火星了
不过圣堂对话貌似没人给挑出来
原文:That should be enough. It`s time to get these troops to Nicolai. We shall hurry as if Crag Hack himself were on our heels!
Crag Hack,有人不知道么,被Sandro骗得团团转的,特长进攻术的蛮子
嗯,女王的喜好似乎满奇怪的……

Perhaps we should go home? I`m no Solmyr!
嗯,连闪男,对付他衍生出了种战术叫禁用

汉土西看白日昏,伤心胡虏据中原。
衣冠虽有先朝制,东海幡然认故园。
廿年家国今何在?又报东胡设伪官。
起看汉家天子气,横刀大海夜漫漫。

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板凳
发表于 2008-3-2 12:08:27 |只看该作者

配音也疯狂

恶魔大君:Paul Bandey
《 Rainbow Warrior, Le 》 (2006) ...Le superintendant Galbraith
《欲望巴黎 Vatel 》 (2000) ...Comte de Mirail
《时空急转弯 Visiteurs, Les 》 (1993) ...Henri 1st Beauclerc, King of UK
亨利一世耶……
蒂耶鲁:Geoffrey Bateman

《这个杀手不太冷/杀手莱昂 Léon 》 (1994) ...SWAT chief
有这部还不够么……
哥老头:Les Clark

《深爱著你 Loving You 》 (1957) ...Eddie
《乡下姑娘 Country Girl, The 》 (1954) ...Actor
《银色圣诞 White Christmas 》 (1954) ...Assistant Dance Director
《销魂花月夜 Aaron Slick from Punkin Crick 》 (1952) ...acting/dance double
《威利还乡记 When Willie Comes Marching Home 》 (1950) ...Musician
《情人的微笑 When My Baby Smiles at Me 》 (1948) ...Trouper
可真够老的,还和动画《睡美人》的导演同名,如果就是他的话……
法蕾坦:Cristina Batman
连Batman都出来了,只好54
雷拉格:Eric Connor

《完美女人 CQ 》 (2001) ...Long Haired Actor at Party
《巴黎档案 Falling Through 》 (2000) ...Poletch
男主角就是不一样
芬丹:Robert Dauney

《复活 Renaissance 》 (2006) ...Karas
这部片他可是主演啊,硬派小生一个
泽希尔:Jerry Di Giacomo

《亚瑟和他的迷你王国 Arthur et les Minimoys 》 (2006) ...Electrician
我想把最酷似角色奖给他成么……
尼科莱:Robert Hoehn

《谍影重重3 The Bourne Ultimatum 》 (2007) ...stand-in: Matt Damon
死人照一张,大家来拜拜……
马卡尔:Joe Sheridan

《汉尼拔崛起 Hannibal Rising 》 (2007) ...Headmaster
《绝代艳后/玛丽-安托瓦内特 Marie Antoinette 》 (2006) ...Catty Courtier
《危险关系 Dangerous Liaisons 》 (1988) ...Georges
慈祥的马老爷爷
拜娅拉:Hester Wilcox
《 Vieille qui marchait dans la mer, La 》 (1991) ...Director's Daughter
《罗丹的情人 Camille Claudel 》 (1988) ...Adèle
拜姐也是有点年纪的……

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地板
发表于 2008-3-2 12:09:00 |只看该作者
虽然名头不算响亮
但上述配音至少也算是二流演员
因为档期问题难以接续
直接导致资料片的大换血
在资料片中
沿用了前代的做法
也就是大量起用译制片配音
其中几位资历堪称老道
在以下配音人员的资料中
均有海量的配音角色
甚至包括很多热播动画和国产电影
同时也限于其在英五中的角色不明
仅做简单介绍
待补
伊拉娅:Sarah Sido

唯一有挂角色名的一个
April Stewart

《 Fainaru fantajî XII 》 (2006) ...Mjrn
《 Dead or Alive Xtreme 2 》 (2006) ...Christie
Bob Joles

《 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-Earth II 》 (2006) ...Gimli/Treebeard
Chuck McCann

Cornelia O'Herlihy

Dave Wittenberg

《 "Gungrave" 》 (2003) ...Kenny, Descartes, Deed's Henchman #1, Gossiper #4, Descartes Henchmsn #4, Thief B, Alzac
《 ".hack//SIGN" 》 (2002) ...Sora
Fred Tatasciore

《忍者神龟 TMNT 》 (2007) ...General Gato
《 Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 》 (2004) ...Hatter/Gargoyle/Tommy
Kirk Thornton

《 Love Hina Again 》 (2002) ...Noriyasu Seta, Teacher
《 "Chobits" 》 (2002) ...Pub Employee, Pess' Owner, Driver, Police Officer, Bookstore Clerk
Lex Lang

《 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II - The Sith Lords 》 (2004)
Michael Sorich
《 Might and Magic IX 》 (2002)
《 Heroes of Might and Magic IV 》 (2002)
《 Legends of Might and Magic 》 (2001)
《 Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor 》 (1999)
《 Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia 》 (1999)
《太极张三丰 Tai ji zhang san feng 》 (1993)
Neil Dickson

《加菲猫2/加菲猫2:两只猫的故事 Garfield: A Tail of Two Kitties 》 (2006)
《警察故事 IV:简单任务 Jing cha gu shi IV: Jian dan ren wu 》 (1996)
Quinton Flynn

《最终幻想VII:圣童降临 Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children 》 (2005) ...Reno
《 Call of Duty 》 (2003)
Richard Epcar

《 Might and Magic IX 》 (2002)
《 WarCraft III: Reign of Chaos 》 (2002)
《 Legends of Might and Magic 》 (2001)
《 Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia 》 (1999)
《 Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor 》 (1999)
Steven Blum

《魔比斯环 Thru the Moebius Strip 》 (2005)
《 "Naruto" 》 (2002)
《 Love Hina Spring Special 》 (2001) ...Masayuki Haitani, Mr. Akamatsu
Wendee Lee

《 三国无双3 Shin sangoku musô 3 》 (2003) ...Da Qiao/Zhen Ji/Xiao Qiao
《 无冬之夜 Neverwinter Nights 》 (2002) ...Various
《 Might and Magic IX 》 (2002)
《 Heroes of Might and Magic III: The Restoration of Erathia 》 (1999)

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衣冠虽有先朝制,东海幡然认故园。
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发表于 2008-3-2 16:16:55 |只看该作者
楼主 太强了。。。这些都能找到了 !!谢谢分享!

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强就一个字,很久没看见如此好文了,LZ有心,对英5理解和喜爱运在我等之上,辛苦了!

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曹太,好文,ding了。。。。。。。。。。

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最后那排...不知道谁是谁啊...

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